View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    11 10.89%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    one can't always predict that someone 8-10 cars in front of you is going to stop hanging you out to dry in an intersection that is changing. I have fought 3 camera tickets in court and won all three.
    How many days and how many hours did it take to get them dismissed?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How many days and how many hours did it take to get them dismissed?
    2 of them were handled over email, the 3rd one required the initial court date and a scheduled trial date. One video of the intersection and it was dismissed.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I doubt it, I have paid them before but 3 times I shouldn't have and didn't
    Do you ever consider not running the red lights?

    I got one years back, became more attentive and haven't had one since.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Do you ever consider not running the red lights?

    I got one years back, became more attentive and haven't had one since.
    as stated in my post above, in larger cities, they do not plan for cars going through in the green light only to have some dumbass 10 cars up hold up traffic trying to turn across traffic thus stopping people in the intersection until it changes. You are helpless in larger towns with heavy traffic when that happens as you can't back out of the intersection.

    IF the ticket happens to be in a state that does not work with my state I just ignore the ticket and toss them.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    as stated in my post above, in larger cities, they do not plan for cars going through in the green light only to have some dumbass 10 cars up hold up traffic trying to turn across traffic thus stopping people in the intersection until it changes. You are helpless in larger towns with heavy traffic when that happens as you can't back out of the intersection.

    IF the ticket happens to be in a state that does not work with my state I just ignore the ticket and toss them.
    I have driven extensively in SF, LA, San Diego, and to a lesser extent in DC. I don't seem to have an issue in any of those cities in regards to red lights and running them.

    When I see the little "gotchya" flash....it is usually someone who was tailgating behind someone else to make sure they get through - and they get caught

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Your response is correct. Of itself, running a redlight doesn't potentially endanger anyone.
    Running a red light doesn't potentially endanger anyone?



    Why should anyone take anything you say about this matter seriously when you make such an egregious comment? You have just denied basic reality, sir. You are spreading anti-safety propaganda that does not deserve to be respected. But it does deserve to be called out. Because your attitudes are precisely what enable road rage and dangerous driving, which cost thousands of American lives every year.

    I strongly question whether you value the sanctity of human life. I strongly question whether you show basic respect towards your fellow humans.

    Watch this video.



    Anybody who watches that video from start to finish and says, with a straight face, that egregious instances of red light running are not inherently dangerous, is either trolling or pathologically lying.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I have driven extensively in SF, LA, San Diego, and to a lesser extent in DC. I don't seem to have an issue in any of those cities in regards to red lights and running them.

    When I see the little "gotchya" flash....it is usually someone who was tailgating behind someone else to make sure they get through - and they get caught
    I drive 70k plus miles per year, you? I have been to 46 states this year, you?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They assert that all "T-bone" accidents are from people running traffic lights.
    Again, you lie. Not one single statistic has EVER claimed that 100.00% of all T-bone collisions are caused by red light runners.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I drive 70k plus miles per year, you? I have been to 46 states this year, you?
    Exceptionally weak counterargument. The volume of driving that you do does not excuse you in any way from following the law. In fact, I would contend that with that much experience under your belt, you should be a nearly flawless driver.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Exceptionally weak counterargument. The volume of driving that you do does not excuse you in any way from following the law. In fact, I would contend that with that much experience under your belt, you should be a nearly flawless driver.
    yeah I can prevent a car 10 units in front of me from stopping, what an asinine comment

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