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  • Abolish red light cameras only

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  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Thing is though, if it is actually a safety hazard to have people running (or even barely missing the light), simply parking an empty cruiser by the intersection would do way more for safety, and no one needs to get a ticket.
    It would accomplish the same thing. People see the camera and slow down... people see the cruiser and slow down.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Honestly, I'm almost in favor of getting rid of controlled intersections all together.

    In Malta nearly every intersection is a simple rotary, no lights or stop sights. Traffic flows much better and there isn't any need to have a ticket camera.

    Naturally they installed speeding ticket cameras on their equivalent of freeways though.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It would accomplish the same thing. People see the camera and slow down... people see the cruiser and slow down.
    Difference is that an empty cruiser doesn't hand out tickets and you can sporadically place a live officer in the car to keep things lively.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Difference is that an empty cruiser doesn't hand out tickets and you can sporadically place a live officer in the car to keep things lively.
    Tickets are a pretty decent deterrent. I've gotten my share and I support giving them out when someone breaks the law.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Honestly, I'm almost in favor of getting rid of controlled intersections all together.

    In Malta nearly every intersection is a simple rotary, no lights or stop sights. Traffic flows much better and there isn't any need to have a ticket camera.

    Naturally they installed speeding ticket cameras on their equivalent of freeways though.
    Rotaries (called traffic circles in my parts) are HORRIBLE and can cause more accidents because of the issues with merging.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    If we want to use common sense and logic, then any intersection or section of road that qualifies for cameras should instead have the signage and whatever else would curb such behavior done. Slapping a camera up hoping that people getting tickets will change their behavior is a fools errand.

    Better to build and mark the roadways properly rather than expect a camera to fix it. If a intersection is a problem access why it is a problem. If people regularly speed in a area put rumble strips on the road surface.
    In California a signage is required notifying there's a camera. It's what is probably responsible for the huge increase of tail in collisions.

    My argument against progressive/liberal ideology has always been about change, they never take the time to think what will be the consequences of the change. Be it social engineering of the military or installing cameras at intersections.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Tickets are a pretty decent deterrent. I've gotten my share and I support giving them out when someone breaks the law.
    I agree that money is a pretty decent deterrent from 'breaking the law.'

    For me though, it's never been about people breaking the law. I'm only really concerned with they physical safety of people. If a car runs a light and there is no one around to crash into it, who am I to care and why should they have to pay for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Rotaries (called traffic circles in my parts) are HORRIBLE and can cause more accidents because of the issues with merging.
    I'm sure they cause plenty of accidents, driving in Malta is crazy. It was, pretty fast though. The only traffic I sat in anywhere on either island was while sitting at one of the very few stoplights. It made a horrendous amount of backup, but everywhere else in the country traffic moved very quickly.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    In California a signage is required notifying there's a camera. It's what is probably responsible for the huge increase of tail in collisions.
    They are also required to post it on the cities webpage with pertinent information regarding when the camera went into effect.


    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Governor Jerry (Moonbeam) Brown in California just signed into law today outlawing bullets that contain lead. Basically requiring steel bullets. Steel bullets are ferrous, they spark when they hit rocks or anything that contains iron. Sparks cause fires.Wildfires destroys homes and wildlife. How many years will it take for them to figure it out ?
    I know that he vetoed a lot of the gun ban legislation, but I didn't hear that they outlawed lead bullets, do you have an article for that?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    I know that he vetoed a lot of the gun ban legislation, but I didn't hear that they outlawed lead bullets, do you have an article for that?
    I just heard it on KFI radio 30 minutes ago when they also said he vetoed making my Ruger 10/22 illegal.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    In California a signage is required notifying there's a camera. It's what is probably responsible for the huge increase of tail in collisions.

    My argument against progressive/liberal ideology has always been about change, they never take the time to think what will be the consequences of the change. Be it social engineering of the military or installing cameras at intersections.

    Governor Jerry (Moonbeam) Brown in California just signed into law today outlawing bullets that contain lead. Basically requiring steel bullets. Steel bullets are ferrous, they spark when they hit rocks or anything that contains iron. Sparks cause fires.Wildfires destroys homes and wildlife. How many years will it take for them to figure it out ?
    So it isnt really about traffic cameras, its actually about progressive/liberal ideology bashing?

    Brass, aluminum alloy bullets dont spark. Lead is actually a very hazardous material. If you do any reloading you have to take active precautions for personal health safety. Handle that lead too much and it makes you stupid.

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