View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Do feel as if you have the right to run red lights AND not have the police do something about it AND potentially kill an innocent person in the process?


    Yeah, I feel I have a right to not be watched continuously by robo-government non-human computer cops that exist to criminalize citizens for the purpose of getting more money for government and causing hundreds of thousands of accidents to do so.

    Why do you want 250,000 more rear-end collisions each year? Why do you think you have a right to rear-end a 90 year old or a car full of children?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Do feel as if you have the right to run red lights AND not have the police do something about it AND potentially kill an innocent person in the process?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post


    Freedom is terrifying to some people such as you indicate in your message. THE safest place is in prison in solitary confinement. It would not be difficult for you to get yourself into such a safe setting.

    The "founding fathers" absolutely did NOT believe "nothing is more important than life itself." They declared nothing is more important that freedom, even life itself. That's why they went to war. War isn't "safe."

    Rear end accidents are one of the most common types of accidents that happen. In 2006, there were 1.8 million rear end accidents reported. This accounts for 29% of all of the injury crashes that occurred in the U.S.
    There are over 6 million car accidents that occur in the country every year and around 31% of these are rear end collisions.
    Rear-End Collisions: Statistics, Injuries and Prevention
    The National Safety Council claims it is over 2,500,000 rear end collisions each year.

    Redlight cameras - and those at few intersections - in cities where added increase accidents by 10 to 20 percent.


    "Man up" is such a stupid phrase.
    Are you seriously suggesting that my right to survive my trip from Point A to Point B must yield to your "right" to run a red light? And then you have the nerve to lecture me that it's YOUR "freedoms" being violated? Do tell me, what gives you the right to lecture me about your "right" to break a law that's simply designed to increase my probability that I will survive tomorrow's trip home from work?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Indeed. To sheepishly submit to overbearing government, to willingly give up liberty in exchange for false safety, is the very opposite of what I understand the term “man up” to mean.
    Too many "men" cry for government to "please! please protect helpless me!!" wanting totalitarian government to protect them, even from themselves. I find it rather pathetic really. What the fail to realize is that the government doesn't see that as cause to protect them, but rather justification to take away their freedom, their money, and to imprison them.

    Does endlessly more power make government more "good?" Or more "oppressive?" History proves the latter is true. Every power over people a government takes is freedom lost. How much do people want to be sheeple of a regulated and restrained flock?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that my right to survive my trip from Point A to Point B must yield to your "right" to run a red light? And then you have the nerve to lecture me that it's YOUR "freedoms" being violated? Do tell me, what gives you the right to lecture me about your "right" to break a law that's simply designed to increase my probability that I will survive tomorrow's trip home from work?
    Are you REALLY that terrified? Seriously. Why aren't you raging that all cars have breathalizers? Alertness detectors? Cell/text phone blockers? You are 100 times more likely to be killed that way.

    Oh, that's right. Government wouldn't make money on that, that wouldn't cause accidents and mostly then it would inconvenience you. It isn't about safety at all. Redlight cameras dramatically increase accidents.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post


    Yeah, I feel I have a right to not be watched continuously by robo-government non-human computer cops that exist to criminalize citizens for the purpose of getting more money for government and causing hundreds of thousands of accidents to do so.

    Why do you want 250,000 more rear-end collisions each year? Why do you think you have a right to rear-end a 90 year old or a car full of children?
    Congratulations, you just blamed the victim. Fact check time: Almost all cases of rear-end collisions are legally the fault of the person in the rear. You don't wanna get in a rear-end collision? Then don't tailgate, and use your brakes.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Are you REALLY that terrified? Seriously. Why aren't you raging that all cars have breathalizers? Alertness detectors? Cell/text phone blockers? You are 100 times more likely to be killed that way.

    Oh, that's right. Government wouldn't make money on that, that wouldn't cause accidents and mostly then it would inconvenience you. It isn't about safety at all. Redlight cameras dramatically increase accidents.
    Calm down. I can't tell if you're being hysterical or just trolling. The solution to not getting a red light ticket involves three simple words: OBEY THE LAW. Is that too difficult for you?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I asked you a question. What is your answer?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Calm down. I can't tell if you're being hysterical or just trolling. The solution to not getting a red light ticket involves three simple words: OBEY THE LAW. Is that too difficult for you?
    Why aren't you declaring breathlizers in every car? Alertness detectors and cell phone blockers? Why don't you voluntarily put those in your car? You WANT the right to get drunk and fall asleep while reading texts killing a school bus full of children? Why don't you care about innocent DEATH??!!!!

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Calm down. I can't tell if you're being hysterical or just trolling. The solution to not getting a red light ticket involves three simple words: OBEY THE LAW. Is that too difficult for you?
    It's not that simple at all. Why have you fixated on redlight cameras?

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