View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No. I think getting a ticket for the 43 mph was a bit much since that was a sign specific to a high traffic area and at that time of night there is no traffic.
    What was the posted speed?

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Driving is a privilege. Nothing about it is a right. Show me where in the constitution where its a right.
    Ninth amendment would cover driving. States can curtail the right drive based on your demonstrated ability to not exercise the right safely. They cannot arbitrarily deny you the right.

    And in case it matter little. Even if it was privilege and not a right it would have zero bearing on your 4th amendment rights.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The Fourth Amendment covers that. It does not apply to your car.
    One is a right the other a privilege.
    Your car is your property. The fourth amendment applies to property.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The 4th amendment certainly applies to cars. There is no question about that.
    No, it doesnt.
    "Sir, will you exit your vehicle?" "Why, we would like to look around real quick". "You got a warrant?" "No, why would I need one" "Its my right". "OK, turn around hands on our head, you will be transported to our office while the warrant is called in."It will take an hour or so".
    Before that, a dog will be called to hit on anything we find. If we find ANYTHING you will be charged immediatly. "but but..." "You have the right to remain silent. Keep that in mind".

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Your car is your property. The fourth amendment applies to property.
    It does not pertain to a conveyance. And if your car is found to be in the use to carry illegal goods, ie guns, drugs, people etc. Your car can and will be taken as evidence and good luck getting it back. If you are not in jail at the time of the police auction, you can go buy it back.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Ninth amendment would cover driving. States can curtail the right drive based on your demonstrated ability to not exercise the right safely. They cannot arbitrarily deny you the right.

    And in case it matter little. Even if it was privilege and not a right it would have zero bearing on your 4th amendment rights.
    Dont pay a ticket and see how much calling it a right works for you in court.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Dont pay a ticket and see how much calling it a right works for you in court.
    That has nothing to do with anything I said.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No, it doesnt.
    "Sir, will you exit your vehicle?" "Why, we would like to look around real quick". "You got a warrant?" "No, why would I need one" "Its my right". "OK, turn around hands on our head, you will be transported to our office while the warrant is called in."It will take an hour or so".
    Before that, a dog will be called to hit on anything we find. If we find ANYTHING you will be charged immediatly. "but but..." "You have the right to remain silent. Keep that in mind".
    Again what does that have to with anything? In certain circumstances the police don't need a warrant to enter your home either.

    The fact is that the police cannot legally search your car without your permission or a warrant. And if they do you have a possibility of getting anything they found tossed. The fact that the police game the system sometimes doesn't bear on what your rights are.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Again what does that have to with anything? In certain circumstances the police don't need a warrant to enter your home either.

    The fact is that the police cannot legally search your car without your permission or a warrant. And if they do you have a possibility of getting anything they found tossed. The fact that the police game the system sometimes doesn't bear on what your rights are.
    Yes, they can enter your home with out a warrant. I have said, just a few posts before some of the reasons they can. But for your car you have a "diminished expectaion of privacy".

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A politician making a statement does not consitute a fact.

    From your own link:

    "But the lengthy report omitted facts later reported by the Tampa Bay Times, such as the fact that rear-end wrecks at intersections with red light cameras jumped 44 percent and overall crashes at those intersections increased 10 percent compared to the previous year."

    The "report" he cites in your link was from a "consultant."
    Also from my link:

    Both sides of the camera debate tout a plethora of research espousing their opinions.
    This disproves your claim that "Every study shows that redlight cameras dramatically increase the number of accidents.". You do not get to just make **** up. You will get called on it. If you cannot debate honestly you are going to be embarrassed like this alot.
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