View Poll Results: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

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  • All cameras should be abolished

    50 49.50%
  • Abolish red light cameras only

    5 4.95%
  • Abolish speeding cameras only

    7 6.93%
  • Abolish other types of cameras only (specify)

    0 0%
  • Allow all cameras to remain in use

    28 27.72%
  • Other (specify)

    11 10.89%
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Pretty sure it's illegal to deliberately hide your license plate.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    But then you could just get one of these

    Only, it's illegal in most states to obstruct your license plate numbers in any way.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    People who choose not to follow the law are the ones who complain the most about it.

    there are two kinds of criminal codes

    1) stuff that is illegal because its evil. Murder, Rape, Robbery, assault, theft, and vandalism

    2) stuff that is illegal just because the law says so

    smoking dope, underage drinking, speeding etc.

    many martinets cannot tell the difference. And having been a municipal prosecutor and city solicitor I can tell you that lots of traffic enforcement decisions are based on revenue rather than any public safety concerns. Like podunk towns in Ohio who have a few hundred yards of interstate within their boundaries and yet write more tickets than the Ohio State troopers for the 50 mile stretch before and after that little slice.

    People who respect the constitution have problems with guilt by machine with no ability to confront one's accusers.



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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are people who want the government watching everything they do to protect them from themselves. There are always people who hate and fear freedom, other people and even themselves. Those people essentially declare the government is their "God" and therefore "laws" are the will of their god.

    I seriously doubt the American revolution was not due to colonists being outraged that the King of England wasn't regulating and policing them enough. It amazes me how many Americans now rage against personal freedom and privacy on behalf of wanting an all-seeing police state.
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    It is interesting to note that many of those who support traffic cameras are also those who vociferously defend their Constitutional rights... especially 2nd Amendment rights... yet are so willing and even happy to voluntarily forfeit their right to proper due process. We complain about the courts chipping away at our Constitutional rights, then we turn around and hand over some of them without a fight.

    I saw most of the supporters of those idiotic cameras as being anti gun statists

    of the pro gun posters who are against cameras there is Bob Blaylock, Ernst B, Goshin, Henrin, Jamesrage, amongh others.


    I don't see anyone who is really pro gun supporting all camera use

    I put other because some cameras are used to time lights-meaning if no one is approaching an intersection, the light remains red until someone needs to cross it



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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there are two kinds of criminal codes

    1) stuff that is illegal because its evil. Murder, Rape, Robbery, assault, theft, and vandalism

    2) stuff that is illegal just because the law says so

    smoking dope, underage drinking, speeding etc.
    Where would drunk driving fit under these?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    i'm against traffic cameras, because they are usually just used to generate money. as for abolishing them, it's a low priority issue for me, but i wouldn't shed a tear if they were abolished.

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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Where would drunk driving fit under these?
    close one-good question. I think it would be the first because it demonstrates a depraved indifference to the safety of others.



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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    close one-good question. I think it would be the first because it demonstrates a depraved indifference to the safety of others.
    But speeding doesn't?
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    Re: Abolish Traffic Enforcement Cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    But speeding doesn't?
    nope not in most cases. 80 through a school zone-probably

    70 in a 55 on an interstate not at all

    45 in a 35 at certain times of day-not at all

    the stuff that constitutes depraved indifference can be charged as reckless driving.



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