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Should we abolish Columbus Day?

Abolish Columbus Day, replace it with Bartolomé Day?

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Excon said:
Then you must be that uneducated tool you speak of.
In his days standards he was allowed to do what he did. That is not murder. As you admit, it is killing. Legal killing.

You are trying to apply today's standards to his time frame. That is wrong.

Like I said.
Only an uneducated tool would judge him by today's standards.
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Rape has happened for thousands of years, even before it was made illegal. Your argument is ****ing stupid. End of story.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Rape has happened for thousands of years, even before it was made illegal. Your argument is ****ing stupid. End of story.
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Hop cute you think you made a point.
:lamo:doh:lamo:doh:lamo

You didn't.
Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life. It is the very reason abortion is not murder.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
 
Excon said:
Hop cute you think you made a point.
:lamo:doh:lamo:doh:lamo

You didn't.
Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life. It is the very reason abortion is not murder.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
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Nobody is disputing that skippy. Murder is the illegal taking of life while killing is not. Apparently you didn't ge the simplicity of my point... figures. *shrugs*

Go ahead and think that you are really clever though... the only fan that you have that is bigger than you is your mom, huh?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Nobody is disputing that skippy. Murder is the illegal taking of life while killing is not. Apparently you didn't ge the simplicity of my point... figures. *shrugs*

Go ahead and think that you are really clever though... the only fan that you have that is bigger than you is your mom, huh?
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You are only speaking of yourself skippy.
You were wrong and shown to be wrong.
He isn't a murderer.
 
Excon said:
You are only speaking of yourself skippy.
You were wrong and shown to be wrong.
He isn't a murderer.
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Right... and an apple wasn't an apple before English came along.

You are a really really smart person. Honestly...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Right... and an apple wasn't an apple before English came along.

You are a really really smart person. Honestly...
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Another ridiculous comparison.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
 
Excon said:
Another ridiculous comparison.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
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If it was an apple does that mean that cave men spoke English?

Go back to grade school, you are out of you depth... but please, don't stop thinking that you are super awesome!
 
Bodhisattva said:
If it was an apple does that mean that cave men spoke English?

Go back to grade school, you are out of you depth... but please, don't stop thinking that you are super awesome!
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You clearly out of your depth.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
 
Excon said:
You clearly out of your depth.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
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That is the third time you have parroted back my own line against me. Are you really that unimaginative? This IS grade school!!

Look, I understand your problem. Your mom praised you too much and now you have a complex.
 
Excon said:
You clearly out of your depth.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
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Your argument doesn't make sense. He was initially charged for murder as noted in the OP.

http://libertycrier.com/christopher-columbus-the-man-the-myth-the-murderer/

By 1498, conditions were so terrible that Spain had to send someone else to govern the colony, and Columbus was arrested. He was transported back to Spain in chains, to stand trial for his crimes. He was stripped of his titles and all claims to the lands that he “discovered.”
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Bodhisattva said:
That is the third time you have parroted back my own line against me.
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That is because it applies to you.

You clearly out of your depth.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.


Bodhisattva said:
mom praised you too much and now you have a complex.
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Is that what your problem is? Figures.
 
ChrisL said:
Your argument doesn't make sense. He was initially charged for murder as noted in the OP.

Christopher Columbus: The Man, The Myth, The Murderer - Liberty Crier

By 1498, conditions were so terrible that Spain had to send someone else to govern the colony, and Columbus was arrested. He was transported back to Spain in chains, to stand trial for his crimes. He was stripped of his titles and all claims to the lands that he “discovered.”
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Your argument doesn't make sense.

Where in what you quoted, or read, does it say he was charged, let alone, convicted of murder?

Huh?
Where?

Let me answer that for you.
It doesn't.


What is even more funny than you assuming something not stated, is you injecting yourself into such a conversation when you don't know what you are talking about, and then purposely leave off relevant information from what you quoted, which is dishonesty.


By 1498, conditions were so terrible that Spain had to send someone else to govern the colony, and Columbus was arrested. He was transported back to Spain in chains, to stand trial for his crimes. He was stripped of his titles and all claims to the lands that he “discovered.” He was later cleared of the most serious charges, but his titles were no longer his to enjoy.
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If he had been charged with the crime of murder (it being one of the most serious charges) he was later cleared, making him not a murderer. Or do you not know that?


The claim that he is a murderer is nothing but propaganda designed to sway the weak minded.
 
Excon said:
Your argument doesn't make sense.

Where in what you quoted, or read, does it say he was charged, let alone, convicted of murder?

Huh?
Where?

Let me answer that for you.
It doesn't.


What is even more funny than you assuming something not stated, is you injecting yourself into such a conversation when you don't know what you are talking about, and then purposely leave off relevant information from what you quoted, which is dishonesty.



If he had been charged with the crime of murder (it being one of the most serious charges) he was later cleared, making him not a murderer. Or do you not know that?
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I'm sure it was quite easy for a person to have their charges cleared who had money back then, especially a person who did favors for the queen in the past. It doesn't take a GENIUS to figure out this guy was a scumbag murderer. Not surprising to see YOU defending him.
 
Excon said:
You clearly out of your depth.

Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
There is a difference between killing and murder.
Killing is the taking of life.
Murder is the illegal taking of life.
Columbus's killings were legal.

Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.
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colombus was latino so he was murderer:lol:

l am glad he wasnt wasp:2razz:

they would be defending colombo
 
ChrisL said:
I'm sure it was quite easy for a person to have their charges cleared who had money back then, especially a person who did favors for the queen in the past. It doesn't take a GENIUS to figure out this guy was a scumbag murderer. Not surprising to see YOU defending him.
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Well you are wrong, as he wasn't.
And your dishonesty speaks volumes as to your position.

Correcting your false image of him is not defending him. He needs no defense from a crime he didn't commit.

But there is no problem correcting you and the false propaganda you sadly choose to believe.
 
Excon said:
Well you are wrong as he wasn't.

Correcting your false image of him is not defending him. He needs no defense from a crime he didn't commit.

But there is no problem correcting you and the false propaganda you sadly choose to believe.
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Oh, I see. So now you're claiming that it never happened. Oh okay. :roll:
 
ChrisL said:
Oh, I see. So now you're claiming that it never happened. Oh okay. :roll:
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More dishonesty on your part huh?
Figures.

Did I say it didn't happen, or did I say it wasn't murder?
Stop being dishonest.
 
Excon said:
More dishonesty on your part huh?
Figures.

Did I say it didn't happen, or did I say it wasn't murder?
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What he did was illegal. THAT is why he was brought up on charges.
 
ChrisL said:
What he did was illegal. THAT is why he was brought up on charges.
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You are assuming those where his charges.
So prove it!

Secondly, (and repeating myself again because you are obviously not paying attention), He was cleared of the most serious charges. With murder being a most serious charge, he stands cleared of it if he was even charged with it.
Therefore not a murderer. That is how the law works whether you like it or not.
 
Excon said:
You are assuming those where his charges.
So prove it!

Secondly, (and repeating myself again because you are obviously not paying attention), He was cleared of the most serious charges. With murder being a most serious charge, he stands cleared of it if he was even charged with it.
Therefore not a murderer. That is how the law works whether you like it or not.
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He was a mass murderer. Some kangaroo court from the 15th century doesn't convince me otherwise.
 
ChrisL said:
He was a mass murderer. Some kangaroo court from the 15th century doesn't convince me otherwise.
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As he was allowed to do as he did, you are wrong.
Exactingly legally does not make one a murder.


Your position is untenable and only come from some sense of warped bias.
Harry Truman isn't a mass murderer even though his decision cost many folks their lives. It was legal.
 
Excon said:
As he was allowed to do as he did, you are wrong.
Exactingly legally does not make one a murder.
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From all of the things I've read about him, that's exactly what he was and would be considered today.
 
ChrisL said:
From all of the things I've read about him, that's exactly what he was and would be considered today.
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So right back to the other claim. Round and round we go. :doh

You judge a person by the times they lived in, not be the time we live in now. To do such is inappropriate.


Your position is untenable and only come from some sense of warped bias.
Harry Truman isn't a mass murderer even though his decision cost many folks their lives. It was legal.
 
Excon said:
So right back to the other claim. Round and round we go. :doh

You judge a person by the times they lived in, not be the time we live in now. To do such is inappropriate.


Your position is untenable and only come from some sense of warped bias.
Harry Truman isn't a mass murderer even though his decision cost many folks their lives. It was legal.
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I don't care what your opinion on the matter is. He was a mass murderer and a maniac too. It's warped bias to think a person is a horrible murderer after reading the OP?
 
ChrisL said:
I don't care what your opinion on the matter is.
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Of course you don't. You obviously don't care about facts either.

ChrisL said:
He was a mass murderer and a maniac too.
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No he wasn't.

ChrisL said:
It's warped bias to think a person is a horrible murderer after reading the OP?
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Yes it is.
First of all it is a biased one sided hit piece designed to sway the weak minded. It does not represent the whole story.

Secondly, You are doing exactly what the author wants you to do ... Make assumptions and buy into the propaganda.
Nowhere did the information show he was even charged with murder. Yet you come away believing it. Duh! :doh
 
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