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Columbus found Cuba and other islands... he never made it to the USA.
Columbus sucks! :lol:
Columbus found Cuba and other islands... he never made it to the USA.
Columbus sucks! :lol:
I think Columbus, Ohio should change their name to Viking.
Better technology, better standards of living, and less violence all seem pretty "objective" to me. :shrug:
Better technology, better standards of living, and less violence all seem pretty "objective" to me. :shrug:
Better standards of living by YOUR values.
You make an assumption about how "every" European and Native American saw their own standard of living.
Again from your subjective point of you try to objectively view another.
Oy Vey!Columbus had nothing to do with America being established... that would be the English and French.
Well. That is an interesting argument.
Oy Vey!
Did you not understand the wording "lead to".
Cortez had more to do with the US being established than Columbus.
Columbus had as much to do with the foundation of the United States as did Marco Polo.
My relatives came over on the Mayflower... they are the ones that lead to the establishment of the good ole' US of A.
And that voyage may never had happened in the same time frame was it not for Columbus.
His discovery lead to this Country being established. End of story.
And that voyage may never had happened in the same time frame was it not for Columbus.
His discovery lead to this Country being established. End of story.
Didn't that bumbling idiot think he was in India and THAT is why he called the native people "indians?" I think so IIRC. So not only was a mass murdering maniac but he was also a dumbass with an incompetent crew.
Nope. It was Ptolemy who miscalculated the circumference of the Earth... making it too small. Columbus used this miscalculation in an attempt to sail West to Asia. It was Ptolemy who lead to the USA being established. Keep trying though...
Christopher Columbus, of course, thought he had arrived in the “Indies,” the medieval name for Asia. Using Marco Polo's Travels among other sources, Columbus calculated that his voyage would lead him to Cathay (China), Cipango (Japan), the Spice Islands (the Mollucas), and India.
A Slow Boat to China
After landing on a small island on Oct. 12, 1492, in what he believed were the Indies, Columbus sailed along the coast of Cuba, certain that he had finally reached the continent of Cathay. He searched in vain for the magnificent cities Marco Polo had described, hoping to deliver a letter from the Spanish monarchs to “the great Khan,” the Chinese emperor. “Afterwards,” Columbus wrote on Oct. 21, “I shall set sail for another very large island which I believe to be Cipango, according to the indications I receive from the Indians on board.” Columbus's Japan proved to be the island of Hispaniola.
Refusing to Ask for Directions
Three voyages later, Columbus still resolutely maintained that he had reached Asia despite growing contrary evidence. Amerigo Vespucci's 150l voyage along the coast of South America convinced most explorers and their patrons that a huge unexplored continent existed across the Atlantic—what Vespucci called Mundus Novus, the New World. Columbus, however, died in 1506 still insisting that he had found a new route to Asia.
Are you implying that Native American's were more violent and had a worse standard of living than did the Europeans?
That has no bearing on the fact of his discovery and what it lead to.Didn't that bumbling idiot think he was in India and THAT is why he called the native people "indians?" I think so IIRC. So not only was a mass murdering maniac but he was also a dumbass with an incompetent crew.
That has no bearing on the fact of his discovery and what it lead to.
One; It in no way makes him a dummy.It led to us all knowing what a dummy and cold-blooded mass murdering jerk he was.
They were in the habit of sacrificing one another to the gods by the thousands. Seems rather violent to me.
Living standard strikes me as being something that would probably be hard to measure, given how many of these cultures went extinct before they could really be studied in that regard.
One; It in no way makes him a dummy.
Two: Murder is the unlawful killing. Were his killings unlawful? What was that? They weren't? Go figure.
Three: I prefer to judge the man by the period in which he lived. Not by today's standards.
And our cultures that had the Inquisition and many religious wars of murder, rape and torture are better?
Then we probably shouldn't indicate that we had a better standard of living...
One; It in no way makes him a dummy.
Two: Murder is the unlawful killing. Were his killings unlawful? What was that? They weren't? Go figure.
Three: I prefer to judge the man by the period in which he lived. Not by today's standards.
He died thinking that he had discovered lands close to India and never realized that he landed on a new continent. 20 years and he never realized his mistake. :lol:
One; It in no way makes him a dummy.
Two: Murder is the unlawful killing. Were his killings unlawful? What was that? They weren't? Go figure.
Three: I prefer to judge the man by the period in which he lived. Not by today's standards.
First off, the Inquisition can only be confirmed to have executed around 3000 people at most in almost 200 years of operation. Many of those executions were also in "effigie" only, meaning that no actual person was killed.
Secondly, the Native Americans had just as many brutal wars as we Europeans ever did, with hundreds of thousands of human sacrifices tossed on top.
I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that the overall balance is in Europe's favor here.
The technology and medical knowledge the West brought with them to the Americas has resulted in higher standards of living than the native cultures ever would've been able to provide for themselves within the same time frame.