View Poll Results: Abolish Columbus Day, replace it with Bartolomé Day?

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Thread: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    This one was bad and I admit it..
    I was trying to reinforce your position with Science and went off..Sorry..
    I did much better in posts 40, 43, 46..
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I mean... Damn. You think modern Africa and the Middle East are bad?

    I don't even want to think about the kind of shenanigans we might be looking at if the Aztecs had hung around long enough to get ahold of machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.
    Hopefully, they would be modernized people and not living in the past.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I thought he was Spanish, but regardless what the hell is an Italion?


    He sailed for the Queen of Spain, but he was from Italy...

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    "Their removal was an improvement."? That is a sick perception of history.... "Celebrating the arrival of Western 'civilization'.". That's a laugh... Old Chris was Italion--Italions consider this their own personal holiday...It should be abolished....
    Um...yes? I can lament how the Mesoamericans were treated after the conquest without mourning the destruction of the Aztec Empire. Columbus Day is foremost a national holiday, it is also a holiday that Italian-Americans celebrate as part of their cultural heritage. The first mass 'remembrance' of Columbus was in 1792 the 300th anniversary after his landing to honor the arrival of Western civilization into the Americas.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    He sailed for the Queen of Spain, but he was from Italy...
    Well, that's debatable if you google it.

    Why did you spell it "Italion" though?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Contention about the discoveries in the Modern Times??
    The data gathered in the 1500s..Either moons go around Jupiter or they don't//
    You know where Galileo ended up..and Newton threw away his masterpiece on Calculus..
    Today he could just have used a zip drive..Imagine..
    Imagine where we would be without glasses, with lenses and their many critical discoveries in the 1700s, which I like to call the century of Biology.
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    How is that "real history"? We call that history of science or history of technology, and that's just as contentious of a field as any.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Hopefully, they would be modernized people and not living in the past.
    Here's hoping.

    Like I said though, it hasn't worked out so well for a lot of other more "primitive" cultures around the world that managed to get ahold of Western technology without also picking up Western values.

    Take the Saudis, for instance. At the heart of the matter, they're really nothing more than bloodthirsty nomads. They simply happen to have won the geographic lottery in that the desert they're living in holds most of the world's oil.

    This reality shows through in their laws and civil behavior even in spite of all the glitz and glamor they surround themselves with.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    [QUOTE=Gathomas88;1062411274]Where exactly?

    For that matter, it's not like the natives were entirely innocent in all of this either. Europeans may have committed more than their share of atrocities, but most of the native cultures weren't much better.

    Honestly, we should probably count it as blessing that the Aztecs and their ilk were done away with.



    How would you react if your homeland was attacked, conquered, your women and children slaughtered, etc, etc......I am more concerned with this country than I am about South American countries... The Aztecs would have evolved in time.....or would have gone through revolution....

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    How would you react if your homeland was attacked, conquered, your women and children slaughtered, etc, etc......I am more concerned with this country than I am about South American countries... The Aztecs would have evolved in time.....or would have gone through revolution....
    That is certainly not necessarily so.

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