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Should we abolish Columbus Day?

Abolish Columbus Day, replace it with Bartolomé Day?


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I will go for that if you go for an increase in taxes to compensate for each war/slash military action we get into.
No! With what we already spend on the defence budget every year,
year in year out we should be able to wipe out an insanely large number of people, doncha think?
 
I'm surprised more people haven't voted yes. Columbus was a horrible, horrible person and it's shameful we celebrate him.
 
I'm surprised more people haven't voted yes. Columbus was a horrible, horrible person and it's shameful we celebrate him.

We excel at revisionist history.
 
I love how some people on this thread pretend the arrival of Western Civilization - which caused the deaths of millions and enslavement of millions more is somehow something that is worthy of celebration but the guy who started it all is the bad guy. In the history of the Americas, Columbus' arrival was probably the least morally revolting part.
 
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I'm not in the least bit surprised that liberals hate America.
It is my personal belief that it is merely a manifestation of their self-hate being made apparent for the world to see.
 
I will go for that if you go for an increase in taxes to compensate for each war/slash military action we get into.

why? I already pay more taxes a month than most pay in several years. Its you lefties who push for more and more spending not me. I want to cut the military budget in terms of overseas involvements. The "war on poverty" has cost us far far more than say the Afghanistan episodes
 
why? I already pay more taxes a month than most pay in several years. Its you lefties who push for more and more spending not me. I want to cut the military budget in terms of overseas involvements. The "war on poverty" has cost us far far more than say the Afghanistan episodes

My supposition is that if Americans will have to immediately pay for war via taxes - their politicians will look closer at "evidence" that leads us to war. If we were required to pay for Iraq at the time - do you think we would have gone to war?

I do not mind paying more if there is a real threat. But I want a good faith effort in deciding what a real threat is.
 
My supposition is that if Americans will have to immediately pay for war via taxes - their politicians will look closer at "evidence" that leads us to war. If we were required to pay for Iraq at the time - do you think we would have gone to war?

I do not mind paying more if there is a real threat. But I want a good faith effort in deciding what a real threat is.

the same could be true as to social welfare spending. War is a constitutionally sound power of congress-income redistribution really is not
 
the same could be true as to social welfare spending. War is a constitutionally sound power of congress-income redistribution really is not

Not talking constitution.

Lots of things that are constitutionally sound are crap.

I am talking that if politicians have to vote to go to war and they know that we will pay ON THEIR WATCH, they will make sure that their information and conclusions are solid.

I do not mind paying for real threat, do you?
 
Not talking constitution.

Lots of things that are constitutionally sound are crap.

I am talking that if politicians have to vote to go to war and they know that we will pay ON THEIR WATCH, they will make sure that their information and conclusions are solid.

I do not mind paying for real threat, do you?

I think you misinterpreted his statement. I believe he is saying that the decision to go to war is ACTUALLY a responsibility of the federal government as outlined in the Constitution, whereas entitlement spending is NOT a responsibility of the feds.

In actuality, the feds have very FEW responsibilities, and it was meant to be that way to limit their power.
 
I love how some people on this thread pretend the arrival of Western Civilization - which caused the deaths of millions and enslavement of millions more is somehow something that is worthy of celebration but the guy who started it all is the bad guy. In the history of the Americas, Columbus' arrival was probably the least morally revolting part.

If you'd rather be living in a teepee somewhere than with the technology and creature comforts Western Civilization provides, go right ahead and do it then. I doubt your presence would be much missed. :roll:
 
In those days, the entire world behaved in such a manner. Please, before chiding the US about Columbus, get the Euros to abandon their Kings whom all did worse things. And don't even get started about the backwards hellhole that the ME or Asia was back then.


Go back a few hundred years, and everyone looks like a monster. Such was the world. The idea behind celebrations is to find the positive things.
 
what nationality was Washington before USA was founded ?

Bloody land grabbing and tribal conflicts in the ancient world does not constitute genocide. What Turkey did, in the modern world, does.
 
In those days, the entire world behaved in such a manner. Please, before chiding the US about Columbus, get the Euros to abandon their Kings whom all did worse things. And don't even get started about the backwards hellhole that the ME or Asia was back then.


Go back a few hundred years, and everyone looks like a monster. Such was the world. The idea behind celebrations is to find the positive things.




:peace:mrgreen:
carpe diem
 
Bloody land grabbing in the ancient world does not constitute genocide. What Turkey did, in the modern world, does.

l approved your previous post with my response to chris but you always need to insult my country
 
l approved your previous post with my response to chris but you always need to insult my country

It's not an insult to recognize real genocide. Ancient bullcrap does not qualify, as it was purely profit and land driven.

I'm glad that you agree about celebrations, though I do not celebrate any holidays.
 
what nationality was Washington before USA was founded ?

George Washington was of English descent. What you fail to understand Medusa is that most people who reside in America today are the descendants of immigrants. Very very FEW people can claim ancestry to the original colonists.
 
George Washington was of English descent. What you fail to understand Medusa is that most [B]people who reside in America today are the descendants of immigrants[/B]. Very very FEW people can claim ancestry to the original colonists.



l really know much about it

thats why washington was american too

agree ?
 
l really know much about it

thats why washington was american too

agree ?

I don't think you do know much about it. The only people who are really Americans are native Americans. Most of us white Americans are of European descent. America is a melting pot of different cultures and ethnicities. For example, I am Irish, Italian, English, Welch, Polish, Canadian Indian.
 
Since hardly anyone celebrates Columbus Day anymore as they did in the 50's when I grew up, I say just do away with and replace it with nothing. We have more than enough federal holidays. I also would like to do away with President's day and go back to celebrating Washington's Birthday which was the way it was until Carter changed the name of it.
 
I don't think you do know much about it. The only people who are really Americans are native Americans. Most of us white Americans are of European descent. America is a melting pot of different cultures and ethnicities. For example, I am Irish, Italian, English, Welch, Polish, Canadian Indian.

Canadian? Yikes.
 
And I forgot French. I have some French too. No jokes please. :)
 
Lol! Not "Canadian." Some kind of Canadian Indian. I really can't remember the tribe name.

I guess that's better, but probably still influenced by those crazy people up north.
 
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