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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That is because it applies to you.

    You clearly out of your depth.

    Your argument is and has been shown to be ****ing stupid.
    There is a difference between killing and murder.
    Killing is the taking of life.
    Murder is the illegal taking of life.
    Columbus's killings were legal.

    Sorry you don't like the facts, but they be what they be.



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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't debate fools or kids... consider yourself tolerated by me.
    Which changes nothing about your being wrong.
    It was not murder.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Which changes nothing about your being wrong.
    It was not murder.
    I didn't argue that it was murder so no, I was not wrong. Keep trying kiddo...
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I didn't argue that it was murder so no, I was not wrong. Keep trying kiddo...
    Oh the pain, the pain!

    Yeah, you did.
    Your own words betray you in more ways then one, and show that you are telling an untruth.
    Red to red underline, ridiculous contradiction.
    Blue, to blue, to blue underline, proving you did argue such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Under today's laws it would be murder. Just because those laws were not written yet does not mean it was not murder. Only an uneducated tool would think otherwise.
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    The argument was not about today's laws. The argument was that it is murder anyway. They did not have appropriate murder laws back then. Technically it was not murder but it was murder non-the-less. Killing is killing and terminology regarding that for back then is pretty meaningless. Your argument is pretty stupid actually. Only an uneducated tool wouldn't understand why.


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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Oh the pain, the pain!

    Yeah, you did.
    Your own words betray you in more ways then one, and show that you are telling an untruth.
    Red to red underline, ridiculous contradiction.
    Blue, to blue, to blue underline, proving you did argue such.




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    Like I said before... you don't understand distinction. I did not argue that it WAS murder. There were no murder laws against Natives. That said, it was murder. You don't get it. I understand. Go ahead and siplay your ineptitude again though...
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That said, it was murder.
    No.
    It is obviously you who don't get it.
    You are arguing it is Murder when it is not.

    Even by today's standards, as his actions were allowed under the law, it is not considered murder.
    Just as Truman killed a bunch of natives. Native Japanese. All legal.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No.
    It is obviously you who don't get it.
    You are arguing it is Murder when it is not.

    Even by today's standards, as his actions were allowed under the law, it is not considered murder.
    Just as Truman killed a bunch of natives. Native Japanese. All legal.
    You are going to say that genocide is the same as war now? And I am not arguing legality... Your mother needs to monitor your internet usage better.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You are going to say that genocide is the same as war now? And I am not arguing legality...
    Besides his being allowed to do as he did as Governor, did you not read the relevant info about Columbus?
    He declared war on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Your mother needs to monitor your internet usage better.
    Why do you want to be juvenile and get personal like that?
    Do you not understand yet that I just throw it back in the persons face as it deserves to be?

    My first post on this forum was letting folks know I am a Disabled Vet.
    Later I provided a photo (with blocked out info and image) of my active duty ID card that expired in 92.

    That is twenty years ago. For all you know I may be older than you are.


    You are the only one acting like a child here, so grow up.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Besides his being allowed to do as he did as Governor, did you not read the relevant info about Columbus?
    He declared war on them.

    Why do you want to be juvenile and get personal like that?
    Do you not understand yet that I just throw it back in the persons face as it deserves to be?

    My first post on this forum was letting folks know I am a Disabled Vet.
    Later I provided a photo (with blocked out info and image) of my active duty ID card that expired in 92.

    That is twenty years ago. For all you know I may be older than you are.


    You are the only one acting like a child here, so grow up.
    Did you brain get disabled? I don't care if you are a vet or not as it is irrelevant to these debates....

    You started the juvenile crap... when you parrot what I say over and over you are acting like a ****ing *****... don't start whining about it now...

    He signed a formal declaration of war on them with the Queens consent? Show some evidence or you ain't got squat.

    I was not arguing legality... wrong and wrong
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't care if you are a vet or not as it is irrelevant to these debates....
    I didn't say you should care, did I?

    I was pointing out that your attempts at insulting my age were juvenile and ridiculous.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You started the juvenile crap... when you parrot what I say over and over you are acting like a ****ing *****... don't start whining about it now...
    Oy Vey!
    No.
    You started by using that juvenile crap in the first place.
    As I stated, I will throw that crap back in a person's face when given.
    And I did just that, which was a win-win for me because it applied to what you said, and not to what I had said.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He signed a formal declaration of war on them with the Queens consent? Show some evidence or you ain't got squat.
    Sigh!
    Did I say that, or did I say; "He declared war on them."
    I am sure I know which one.
    Care to correct yourself?


    On his second trip to Haiti, King Ferdinand replenished his resources and gave him anything he needed to break and conquer the natives. Once he and his crew made it to the island, his demands were met with surprising defiance which allowed him to then declare war on the Arawak tribe; an almost obvious plan. Using vicious and inhumane fighting tactics, Columbus and his Spaniards won the battle. With no luck finding the gold on this trip either, he rounded up approximately 500 Arawak Indians to bring to Spain as slaves and gathered 500 more for the new Spanish government of Haiti to use in the same barbaric manner. They had conquered the Arawak Indians and now declared that Haiti belonged to Spain.
    Christopher Columbus the Barbarian

    And those slaves were the spoils of war.
    It is the way things were.
    If you don't like it, that is fine, but it totally different from it being murder or illegal.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I was not arguing legality... wrong and wrong
    Bs! You are wrong and even more wrong.
    Just like you said you weren't arguing it was murder (which as I showed to be false), you also argued the legality of it.

    I swear, you do not know what the hell you are arguing.
    You arguing legality is right there in what I quoted to prove you wrong that you were arguing that it was murder.

    Why don't you just finish this by saying that your real position is you just don't like what he did.
    I can't argue against that as it is just an opinion.
    But keep claiming false facts like it was murder when it wasn't, and I will continue to argue against them.
    Last edited by Excon; 10-20-13 at 10:33 PM.
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