Didn't you read the posts concerning what a scumbag Columbus was and how this is a driving force for this thread??
For my whole life, Columbus day has been wrapped with an in-service day at school the previous Friday, a nice 4-day vacation for families after the 1st quarter..
This is Harvest days, for ChrisL's sake, the change to Autumn..
These Libertarians won't be happy until they destroy all we have enjoyed growing up.
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"I am not among those who fear the people. They and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1816 "[F]acts are before ideas." -- Mikhail Bakunin, 1882
We celebrate Columbus Day because of the idea it represents not the man. It's almost cliche at this point to point out that Columbus was a fairly indecent man. There is nothing new in pointing out that he exploited the Indians he captured, was dictatorial to the colonists he ruled, and was generally an all around malcontent. That isn't the point. The point is that Columbus Day is a way of celebrating the arrival of Western civilization in the Americas and the 'completing' of the globe that it signified. Everyone in America knows this holiday as Columbus Day and Columbus Day it should remain.
Edit: Also on a complete side note I'm sick of hearing these sad yearnings for indigenous cultures and tribes gone by. Its not as though the tribes and civilizations encountered by Western settlers, whether Aztecs or the Powhatan's, were all that progressive and kind. In almost all cases their removal was an improvement. What remains a sad, sad mark on history is how the conquered were treated and the unstoppable impact and toll that disease took.
Last edited by Sherman123; 10-10-13 at 11:54 PM.
Yea... No. The last thing any country needs is holiday devoted more or less exclusively to wallowing in pitiful self-loathing over crimes that no one alive today played any role in whatsoever.
Europeans are here, and they're here to stay. While I might suggest not centering it around someone like Columbus, I don't see anything wrong with the idea of a holiday commemorating the event which lead to this state of affairs.
History is often a messy business. There isn't a culture in existence without at least a few skeletons in its closet.
What's the point in crying over split milk?
Last edited by Gathomas88; 10-10-13 at 11:55 PM.
"Men did not love Rome because she was great. She was great because they had loved her." -- G.K. Chesterton
"We all of us know down here that politics is a tough game. And I don't think there's any point in being Irish if you don't know that the world is going to break your heart eventually."-Daniel Patrick Moynihan, December 5, 1963