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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    I must say that I'm glad you lefties are able to educate the rest of the folks in this country
    that we are indeed the most horrific nation ever founded in the history of mankind.
    Of course not, I don't think there are any countries who haven't committed some kind of atrocity in their pasts.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I'm not talking about the nation. I'm talking about Cristóbal Colón.
    Yeah, he was from Spain, so IMO he really doesn't represent our country anyway.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Maybe they should rename it Native American Day...
    Wasn't there a push a few decades back to call it "Indigenous Peoples Day?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Didn't you read the posts concerning what a scumbag Columbus was and how this is a driving force for this thread??

    For my whole life, Columbus day has been wrapped with an in-service day at school the previous Friday, a nice 4-day vacation for families after the 1st quarter..

    This is Harvest days, for ChrisL's sake, the change to Autumn..
    These Libertarians won't be happy until they destroy all we have enjoyed growing up.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    I honestly don't care what happens with that. I don't get that day off anymore, so it's of no relevance to my life.
    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I think we should probably get rid of the holiday just as soon as we give the natives their continent back. Until then, it's kind of a hollow gesture.
    It isn't theirs.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    We celebrate Columbus Day because of the idea it represents not the man. It's almost cliche at this point to point out that Columbus was a fairly indecent man. There is nothing new in pointing out that he exploited the Indians he captured, was dictatorial to the colonists he ruled, and was generally an all around malcontent. That isn't the point. The point is that Columbus Day is a way of celebrating the arrival of Western civilization in the Americas and the 'completing' of the globe that it signified. Everyone in America knows this holiday as Columbus Day and Columbus Day it should remain.

    Edit: Also on a complete side note I'm sick of hearing these sad yearnings for indigenous cultures and tribes gone by. Its not as though the tribes and civilizations encountered by Western settlers, whether Aztecs or the Powhatan's, were all that progressive and kind. In almost all cases their removal was an improvement. What remains a sad, sad mark on history is how the conquered were treated and the unstoppable impact and toll that disease took.
    Last edited by Sherman123; 10-11-13 at 01:54 AM.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, Columbus day should be eliminated.

    No, it should not be replaced with some political correctness of an obscure unknown.
    National Casino Day?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Maybe they should rename it Native American Day...


    Yea... No. The last thing any country needs is holiday devoted more or less exclusively to wallowing in pitiful self-loathing over crimes that no one alive today played any role in whatsoever.

    Europeans are here, and they're here to stay. While I might suggest not centering it around someone like Columbus, I don't see anything wrong with the idea of a holiday commemorating the event which lead to this state of affairs.

    History is often a messy business. There isn't a culture in existence without at least a few skeletons in its closet.

    What's the point in crying over split milk?
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Didn't you read the posts concerning what a scumbag Columbus was and how this is a driving force for this thread??

    For my whole life, Columbus day has been wrapped with an in-service day at school the previous Friday, a nice 4-day vacation for families after the 1st quarter..

    This is Harvest days, for ChrisL's sake, the change to Autumn..
    These Libertarians won't be happy until they destroy all we have enjoyed growing up.
    Oh, so you're concerned about your vacation time? So then call it National Massacre of Native People's Day.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Disgusting. And the lies our "educators" tell us in school are also awful. Reminds me of the Thanksgiving Day lies.
    Much of it is ignorance or oversimplification of one point of view to make it more palatable for a younger audience while not angering parents. Then again, at the elementary education level, I never accused my teacher candidate colleagues of being that intellectually curious of history. They all seemed to be more interested in chick shows, parties, and cute child stories.
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