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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Didn't Columbus die thinking he'd found India, because his incompetence lead him to grossly underestimate the size of the Earth?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Naw.

    He was just a little late to the party.
    Seems to me that he was right on time with his discovery.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Didn't Columbus die thinking he'd found India, because his incompetence lead him to grossly underestimate the size of the Earth?
    Pretty much. If he hadn't blundered into the Americas, he most likely would've simply starved to death in the middle of the Pacific.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Ehhh I don't know if that's really an accurate parallel. Don't mistake me, I'm actually quite a fan of Western imperialism believe it or not, as I think it's largely had a net benefit on the world's economic and social situation.

    Even so, I do think there's merit in observing an untouched culture, for what you can learn about different cultural evolutionary pathways, and so it is something of a shame to see the cultures of the New World so utterly and totally extinct.

    I think it's a defensible position to both support that the Western Hemisphere has become an extension of Europe and European ideals, and still mourn the loss of a culture that developed in strikingly different ways to those in the Old World.
    Well, they're not totally extinct. We can still observe Native American tribes in the Amazon and artic fringes of North America living as more or less distinct cultures.

    It's a far cry from a full fledged native empire, but it's certainly something. lol

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    I have to do a doublethink on the "less objectively terrible" comment. That would be less objectionably terrible from the "European"oint of view - which makes it subjective.
    Better technology, better standards of living, and less violence all seem pretty "objective" to me.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Whaaaa!
    We honor him for his discovery.

    Get over it.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I don't know what that is, but in any event, no, I would like our nation to stop celebrating genocide.
    That's not celebrated. But whatever.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?
    even better, why does columbus get credit when it was probably one of the crew who saw land first? then again Columbus controlled the ship's logbooks, so he had the final say of what was written down.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    even better, why does columbus get credit when it was probably one of the crew who saw land first? then again Columbus controlled the ship's logbooks, so he had the final say of what was written down.
    Well of course credit is going to go to the captain.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?
    Leif just hung out for a while and didn't really do anything. A few settlements, meh. Columbus brought Europe.

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