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Thread: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It has nothing to do with hurting feelings, it has to do with not honoring a terrible, terrible person. Would you oppose a Barrack Obama day?


    What the hell are you talking about? You claimed we're all attacking America because we think Columbus day of all things is not a good idea, because Columbus was a gigantic asshole. Do you have any actual arguments as to why it should be a holiday?

    And you completely ignored the fact that it was only added 100 years ago. If we created a Barrack Obama day, should we accuse you of being anti-American if you oppose it? Your arguments are weak and nonsensical.
    It doesn't bother me if the holiday should remain, but I'm sure we could think of something better to celebrate than a mass murderer.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It doesn't bother me if the holiday should remain, but I'm sure we could think of something better to celebrate than a mass murderer.
    in some areas Columbus day was seen as a day of honoring Italian immigrants' contributions to America. Some of my Italian friends are pissed when the PC types want to get rid of CD



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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in some areas Columbus day was seen as a day of honoring Italian immigrants' contributions to America. Some of my Italian friends are pissed when the PC types want to get rid of CD
    Well, there is controversy about that. The Spaniards also claim CC as their own. I guess no one's really sure what nationality he was. Of course the results of testing were inconclusive.

    BBC - Travel - The mystery of Columbus?s legacy : History, Seville

    Equally murky is the matter of Columbus’s nationality. Theories vary as to whether the voyager was Italian, Spanish, French, Polish, Portuguese… the list goes on. Another 2006 study, carried out by some of the same geneticists who looked into Columbus’s death, sought to use DNA once more to solve this second mystery. The bulk of historical evidence points to Columbus being either Spanish or Italian, so the researchers started there. Since the name Columbus is actually “Colon” in Spanish and “Colombo” in Italian, they gathered DNA samples from hundreds of men with these last names – because both their surnames and their Y chromosomes would be passed down from their fathers.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Why is anyone fighting over this killer anyway? I would hope he was the "other" nationality.

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Would a "real" American celebrate Italian-ness or Spanish-ness or Kenyan-ness. Such people have divided loyalties and cannot be proper Americans (with the exception of supporting Israel, THEY'RE troo patriots!)
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    I love holidays, and it isn't about the getting off work either. I like Halloween as much as any other holiday. I like to celebrate things. So what is the issue with just changing it to something less "controversial" and more in what the holiday is already about, celebrating the "discovery" of this part of the world which actually led to most of us being here? It doesn't matter who we accredit that discovery to, only that we recognize that it is why we are here and why our country (since the US is I think the only that celebrates it) grew the way it did.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Barrack Obama day
    you mean the muslim mulatto that proclaimed America IS NOT a Christian nation?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Would a "real" American celebrate Italian-ness or Spanish-ness or Kenyan-ness. Such people have divided loyalties and cannot be proper Americans (with the exception of supporting Israel, THEY'RE troo patriots!)
    Of course they do. Ever hear of Cinco de Mayo? How about St. Patrick's Day? Kwanzaa?

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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    In the world of political correctness, hurt feelings means a lot more than actions.
    #@%& political correctness.
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    Re: Should we abolish Columbus Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It has nothing to do with hurting feelings, it has to do with not honoring a terrible, terrible person. Would you oppose a Barrack Obama day?
    Times change, views change, when Columbus was alive, what he was doing was perfectly acceptable. We have to view things in a historical context and not gauge things by today's standards. Otherwise, we'd have to do away with most holidays celebrating any individuals.
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