View Poll Results: What opinion is most out of touch with reality?

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  • R-Global Warming is not man made

    9 21.43%
  • L-Global Warming is 100% man made

    2 4.76%
  • R-Abortion kills a human

    2 4.76%
  • L-Unborn human rights are trumped by a woman's right to choose

    5 11.90%
  • R-Lower taxation equals economic freedom and greater equality in opportunity

    4 9.52%
  • L-Higher taxation for certain tax brackets is fair because it helps the poor

    6 14.29%
  • R-Immigration is a good thing, but those that broke the law should not be rewarded

    1 2.38%
  • L-Immigration laws should not be enforced

    5 11.90%
  • R-Religious freedom is absolute (i.e. traditional marriage, creationism, young Earth)

    6 14.29%
  • L-Secular values trump religious freedom (i.e. gay marriage, evolution, big bang)

    2 4.76%
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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm pretty sure that what you think of as a "freedom" most people consider "priviledge."
    Nope. Privilege is what you get with UHC. You have the privilege of living so long as the government bureaucracy continues to fund your health care.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That does not say humans are 100% responsible for global warming.
    The absence of other factors in their explanation of global warming implies such.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Uh...no. The Constitution did not establish a secular society. The Constitution recognized the right to believe as you wish with regards to religion.
    I guess I'm using the wrong words and causing confusion, sorry about that. The Constitution didn't establish a society free of religion, it established a society with a secular bedrock and asserted the right of the individual to overlay whatever religion they wanted in their own lives.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Nope. Privilege is what you get with UHC. You have the privilege of living so long as the government bureaucracy continues to fund your health care.
    In other words, limited by law. Just like you defined "freedoms."
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    We could make it just a little more clear that NO religion has any right to try to shove its ideas down anyone's throat.
    What about other ideologies other than religion? Should, for example, atheism have the right to shove its ideas down anyone's throat? 'Cause it seems it has that right in America.

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    The absence of other factors in their explanation of global warming implies such.
    That's your interpretation of what is being said. They're arguing that we should curb the damage that is done by us. Which is substantial. Now, can you find that 100% figure anywhere? No? Then what you believe is implied is useless.
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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    What about other ideologies other than religion?
    Should, for example, atheism have the right to shove its ideas down anyone's throat?
    'Cause it seems it has that right in America.



    Who is going to try to shut it up in the USA?

    Do you want to give it a shot?




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    Last edited by shrubnose; 10-12-13 at 02:00 PM.

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    The absence of other factors in their explanation of global warming implies such.
    Off the top of my head, I can list a non-manmade factor that causes global cooling:
    Just about any substance shot high enough into earth's 'sphere causes cooling. Sidenote: It's been scientifically proven that SO2 shot high enough into earth's 'sphere causes rain.

    Of course, environmentalists won't agree with shooting substances high into earth's 'sphere to cool the earth because
    that wouldn't attempt to return earth's 'sphere to a more pristine state (which is environmentalist's goal, rather than preventing global warming).

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    nm......

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    Re: Political ideal that is most out of touch with reality

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who is going to try to shut it up in the USA?

    Do you want to give it a shot?




    "Man has created God in his own image: Intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent." ~ Marie
    Why not have religious and non-religious scenes at public places?
    Why not have schools celebrate religious and non-religious holidays during the last few days of December?

    I could get into the interpretation of the separation of church and state (church is to be eliminated from state - an atheist belief) interpreted incorrectly from the founding fathers (Madison).
    Last edited by cabse5; 10-12-13 at 02:12 PM.

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