View Poll Results: Will Obamney care succeed

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    36 52.94%
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Thread: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Considering the majority of us just want 10 McNuggets, some kind of healthcare is gonna be needed!
    It's not a majority yet, it's only 43%. I'm hoping to see it at 47%


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the fact that 30 to 40 million people don't ahve insurance is unacceptable.
    Then YOU and the rest of your liberal buds pay for their insurance. We could add it to the donations available on tax returns. Put your money where your mouth is and insure an uninsured person out of your own paycheck.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I mean before Obamacare.
    Well, until Obama started making noise my premiums and coverage had remained stable for years.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    You paid for their healthcare under our old system in the least effienct way possible. Why do you want to do that?
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    Then YOU and the rest of your liberal buds pay for their insurance. We could add it to the donations available on tax returns. Put your money where your mouth is and insure an uninsured person out of your own paycheck.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Healthcare costs have remained stable for years?
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    Well, until Obama started making noise my premiums and coverage had remained stable for years.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    You paid for their healthcare under our old system in the least effienct way possible. Why do you want to do that?
    No I didn't. The old emergency room healthcare meme is busted when you actually know anything about how hospitals and emergency care work.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Ok, why dont you explain it to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No I didn't. The old emergency room healthcare meme is busted when you actually know anything about how hospitals and emergency care work.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Healthcare costs have remained stable for years?
    Mine did. Those who crafted their own plans and took responsibility were very much able to balance cost and care expectation.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I know we have to do something. I think most people who state they are happy with their healthcare simply are not aware of the way the system operates and they fear change. It amazes me only a slight majority oppose ACA since there is a 24/7 right wing noise machine screaming about anything that does not contribute to the profit of the healthcare system. Few Americans realize what happens to their healtcare costs every year anyway since premiums are taken out of their paychecks, it goes up and up and up, every year all the time. I think Obama has shown something we have not seen for years in this country from the President, leadership. It is obviously not an outrageously popular cause, but it is one this country must do someday.
    I think you give the right wing media too much credit. Who listens to talk radio anymore, just the same right wing hearing what they want to hear. Whose minds wouldn’t be changed no matter what. Perhaps we did have to do something, that is to take care of those who were uninsured. But I do not think the ACA was the right way to go. The ACA’s dynamics were written and promises said based on all the changes it, the law, people and companies wouldn’t change their habits, their routines from what they were doing prior to the law being passed.
    But people adjust, companies adjust. What made sense for some companies to offer their employees health insurances prior to the law, might not make sense to do so after the law was passed. The additional mandates that health insurance must now offer also drives up the price. You can expect additional coverage of dependents, say from 18 to 26 to be able to stay on their parents insurance not to drive up the premium. Having to cover everyone with pre-existing conditions will also drive up the premiums to those who didn’t have those conditions. There is plenty of other examples, but you get the idea.

    The same can be said of taxes the same as premiums. If each of us had to wait until April 15th and then pay one’s full taxes instead of having them taken out each paycheck there would be a massive uprising in the streets over taxation. I agree that most people do not know the difference between gross and net income. Money people do not see is not missed.

    I still think a VA style system would have been a better way to take care of the uninsured. Not the whole scale chances brought on with this law. But it is here and I am willing to live with it. There are 5 different doctors the wife and me go to see that are either retiring or going to another country to work. They cite Obamacare for their reason for either retiring or leaving. I never realized how many doctors we have from places like Canada, India and Asia practicing in this country. How many of them will remain? I don’t know and no one else does either. I fear this fight over the ACA will go on and on and on much like the fight over abortion.

    As for Obama, I really do not see all that much difference between him and Bush the 2nd. President that I have experienced and was old enough to know what they were doing and their policies that I like and thought of the most were Eisenhower, JFK, Clinton and Reagan. LBJ somewhere in the middle and the rest I would call second or third tier.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Ok, why dont you explain it to me.
    Been there, done that, tired of repeating myself.

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