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    36 52.94%
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Thread: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No accurate option.

    My answer is no because it's bad law.

    Well intentioned, bad law.
    If republicans believe it us bad law, work to improve or write a better one. Work through the system. Handle this they we handle all other laws.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    A completely uninformative reply.

    What is bad about it?

    The concept of nationalized HI?

    The details of the ACA?

    What?
    First, it's an infringement on personal liberty...always contentious in a freedom loving society. Second, it raises taxes....stupidly. How is making medical equipment more expensive going to reduce costs? Third, it's a bit senseless...the ponzi scheme requires young healthy subscribers to keep it afloat, but makes it possible to remain on mommy and daddy's plan until 26. Last, it really does nothing of value except benefit health insurers....and if anyone deserves a break here, it ain't them.

    Bad law.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If republicans believe it us bad law, work to improve or write a better one. Work through the system. Handle this they we handle all other laws.
    How are they going to do that if the other side won't negotiate? I think in the two years and 42 defunding votes, Democrats could have considered a sit down on straightening it out before we got to this point.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How are they going to do that if the other side won't negotiate? I think in the two years and 42 defunding votes, Democrats could have considered a sit down on straightening it out before we got to this point.
    Win more elections, the same way it's always been done.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by francois60 View Post
    I don't know would get 100%, if we're honest with ourselves. But I think the OP wanted predictions, so "I don't know" is actually a copout in that context. Any supporter of ACA should be fully expecting it to succeed, or else why support it? Why futz with something so important if you're not sure it will work?
    Ahhh....this is why we got into the misguided Iraq War. People fail to understand the difference between "believe" and "know."

    The question was not do I "believe" the ACA will benefit a lot of people. If that were the question, my answer would be yes (since it is already doing that).

    The question was "will it succeed," with "succeed" not being defined. No one can answer that question yes or no truthfully. The ACA is targeting many things, most of which people don't know about (since they don't even seem to know the ACA is the same thing as Obamacare). This is the first time our country has tried extensive health care reform. Time will tell whether it will succeed in every area it is intended for.

    But it's like one of my favorite lines in a movie. It's from Paint Your Wagon, when the beautiful 2nd, junior wife of a Mormon man agrees to be auctioned off to a burly group of dirty, low-down, uncouth and desperate men in a gold mining town. The Mormon husband says, "But wife, you don't know what you'll get!" She replies, "Well, I know what I've had."

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Ahhh....this is why we got into the misguided Iraq War. People fail to understand the difference between "believe" and "know."

    The question was not do I "believe" the ACA will benefit a lot of people. If that were the question, my answer would be yes (since it is already doing that).

    The question was "will it succeed," with "succeed" not being defined. No one can answer that question yes or no truthfully. The ACA is targeting many things, most of which people don't know about (since they don't even seem to know the ACA is the same thing as Obamacare). This is the first time our country has tried extensive health care reform. Time will tell whether it will succeed in every area it is intended for.

    But it's like one of my favorite lines in a movie. It's from Paint Your Wagon, when the beautiful 2nd, junior wife of a Mormon man agrees to be auctioned off to a burly group of dirty, low-down, uncouth and desperate men in a gold mining town. The Mormon husband says, "But wife, you don't know what you'll get!" She replies, "Well, I know what I've had."
    Things could actually get worse. Right now, we have a private insurance system in which millions lack access due to high costs. The end result of ACA could be that we have a private insurance system in which millions lack access due to even higher costs, and then we're making them pay a tax for their lack of insurance.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The plan I was on now costs more as well.
    Now it's coming clear. The insurance company raised its rates, and so your employer went with a plan that has a higher deductible. The new plan costs more, but not as much more as the old plan.

    You do realize that this same thing has been happening for several years now, don't you? If you were able to keep your plan for years, that means that your employer has been absorbing the increased costs. Some years, our insurance plan went up by 30% and more, and that was when Obama was still a community developer or whatever it was he used to do.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Will RomneyCare on a national scale succeed?



    There will be problems, probably lots of them at first. But the losers on the far right will not get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

    It will survive and eventually be changed into a single-payer system -wait and see.




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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Will RomneyCare on a national scale succeed?



    It will not only succeed, eventually it will be changed into a single-payer plan for all American health-care consumers.

    Anyone who doesn't like it probably voter for Romney last November. If it bothers them enough they can always leave the USA.

    The entrance to the exit is wide open.




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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It will not only succeed, eventually it will be changed into a single-payer plan for all American health-care consumers.

    Anyone who doesn't like it probably voter for Romney last November. If it bothers them enough they can always leave the USA.

    The entrance to the exit is wide open.




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    Why would a Romney voter not like it? Didn't he sign a similar measure into law in Michigan? Isn't that where the term "Obamneycare" comes from?
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