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Thread: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm sure that the original post said $29 added to the annual premium, but maybe that was wrong. Even $29 a month is irrelevant if the employer dumped the plan for one even more expensive.
    dtjr still has some explaining to do on some other things, but he did specify $29 per month several times.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Now, let's take a look at the premiums noted in your source. The average cost of medical care in the USA is over 8,000 per year per person, which would work out to $670 per month on average.
    Let us be precise. It is about $10,500 per person over 18. They foot the bill.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If total premiums are $400 a month, that would be a bargain.
    ACA rates are slightly- about 5%- higher than what I pay, and I got 60+ year-old smokers rates (I have not smoked at all now since 11/10).



    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    And yes, the youth who believe that they'll never get sick or be in an accident would rather not pay the cost of insurance. We've been subsidizing the uninsured for years, we being ratepayers and taxpayers, so why not have them pay a small tax to at least partly make up the difference?
    What worries me is that premium income will be drastically less than expected, and that miscreants, old more than young, run up so many bills that the premium and "tax" income falls calamitously short of expenses. So what else is new, huh?



    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not a Democrat, didn't vote for Obama, thought that Romney was the best choice, but the misinformation about Obamacare is so pervasive and wrong that it's just time someone spoke up and said that it's not the train wreck that the right wing makes it out to be. It's far from perfect, still doesn't adequately address costs, but still helps more people be covered by insurance.
    It does more than "help." It is a guarantee. Will cannot yet know if the train will wreck. I don't feel lucky, but then I have been on a bit of a run of bad luck, and maybe that is doing too much to color my reaction. I sure was hoping ACA was going to save me about, oh $29 a month or so, but it looks like even that was hoping for too much.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Will RomneyCare on a national scale succeed?
    Depends on your definition of "succeed." In any case, the answer has to be "I don't know," since none of us knows, yet. But you didn't offer that option in your poll!

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, it must be a bummer that you now have more coverage.
    No I have a higher deductible, no more coverage.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    So why did your company go with the plan that cost more if the other plan did qualify?
    The plan I was on now costs more as well.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Depends on your definition of "succeed." In any case, the answer has to be "I don't know," since none of us knows, yet. But you didn't offer that option in your poll!
    I don't know would get 100%, if we're honest with ourselves. But I think the OP wanted predictions, so "I don't know" is actually a copout in that context. Any supporter of ACA should be fully expecting it to succeed, or else why support it? Why futz with something so important if you're not sure it will work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr
    Did you know that each person pays $29 dollars a month to cover those who do not have insurance? For the company I work for that means premiums are an extra 139200 per year on top of the already increasing premium. Now do you get it? ObamaCare sucks!
    Why didn't your employer pass the cost on to you and let you keep the old plan?

    It would not be a significant burden for the employees to foot an extra $29 per month.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
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    Why didn't your employer pass the cost on to you and let you keep the old plan?

    It would not be a significant burden for the employees to foot an extra $29 per month.
    Doing that will cost us a meager 2% increase. Quite minor. That's about $297 a year for each person. That's for a family plan btw. Singles pay $121 a year. A full $10 a month. That's their total contribution.
    Last edited by Boo Radley; 10-12-13 at 01:36 PM.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    No accurate option.

    My answer is no because it's bad law.

    Well intentioned, bad law.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No accurate option.

    My answer is no because it's bad law.

    Well intentioned, bad law.
    A completely uninformative reply.

    What is bad about it?

    The concept of nationalized HI?

    The details of the ACA?

    What?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    How can you tell? Have you read the thing?
    Have you read the ACA ? Are you a Ted Cruz,supporter ?


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