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Thread: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    David I guess you aware that
    most of us who do have health insurance have been paying for the uninsured. even before Obamacare was passed.



    Why Obama's Healthcare Law Is Constitutional | The Nation
    Which is what needs to be fixed, and ObamaCare is not the answer. By the way the article was inaccurate, it is not a tax (no matter what the SC says) it is a penalty.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    ?? You quoted me, then didn't respond to anything I said. What does "small business" mean?
    That was the reason 29 dollars per employee put them over the edge.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    That was the reason 29 dollars per employee put them over the edge.
    Small business is the reason that $29 put them over the edge. M.... OK.??
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I believe we should have UHC and also make the entire medical service industry non profit. However I feel that the ACA is just a horrible law and really does nothing to combat our current systems biggest problem and that is cost.
    I feel like I should hire a programmer to write script for me so that everything I write on this topic automatically inserts "Obviously it's not ideal and everybody on the left wanted UHC to begin with, but" at the beginning of every post.

    Anyway, the ACA expands coverage to more poor people (16 million is the number I'm told), prevents people from being denied due to pre-existing conditions, prevents people from being dropped when they become too costly, and allows interstate shopping. And the mandate itself spreads the risk so that when healthy people who refused to get health insurance go to the emergency room where they learn that...oops!...they're human after all. That's an improvement.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I feel like I should hire a programmer to write script for me so that everything I write on this topic automatically inserts "Obviously it's not ideal and everybody on the left wanted UHC to begin with, but" at the beginning of every post.

    Anyway, the ACA expands coverage to more poor people (16 million is the number I'm told), prevents people from being denied due to pre-existing conditions, prevents people from being dropped when they become too costly, and allows interstate shopping. And the mandate itself spreads the risk so that when healthy people who refused to get health insurance go to the emergency room where they learn that...oops!...they're human after all. That's an improvement.
    Allows interstate shopping? Isn't that the right wing solution to the rising costs? I didn't know that was even in the bill.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Allows interstate shopping? Isn't that the right wing solution to the rising costs? I didn't know that was even in the bill.
    Regulations intended to reduce prices through competition will make plans and prices more transparent and price comparisons more accessible for consumers with online information;[143][144][145] and federally approved, multi-state plans will be phased-into state exchanges[146] to help guarantee enough options.
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    Am I reading that wrong?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Why are you people so dead set on giving up your right to life? I just can't figure this out.
    Why are you people so dead set on poor people being left sick and in the cold while roving packs of rabid wildebeasts gnaw on their limbs and steal their children off into the night?

    /hysteria

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Your initial premise is flawed. It's a step in the wrong direction and only suits the interests of those who made deals with Obama so that he could pass this vanity piece.
    I don't agree. Some deals, like with the insurance companies, had to made to push this forward. Making deals is deeply imbedded in our system, for better or worse. It's not new. But the direction is towards more coverage and not less, with higher standards and not less, and with some personal accountability and not less.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Small business is the reason that $29 put them over the edge. M.... OK.??
    The company is a small business....
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Nope.

    I wonder why we haven't heard that one from the right wingers? That's what they've wanted all along! If premiums don't plummet now, then it would have to mean that their solution doesn't work.
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