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Thread: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Is there anything more annoying than polls where the OP assigns a reason to you for the answer you choose?

    Why not simply let responders provide their own reasons instead of a forced compliance with the OP's nonsense?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Two things I've found interesting in the discussion so far: It appears that nobody noticed that I called it "Obamneycare."

    The other thing that nobody's really pointed out is that Medicare was once as hated as the ACA. Ronald Reagan did radio ads against it back in the day. Now his party is all "Keep your government out of my Medicare." It seems that once they got used to Medicare, they liked it.


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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Is there anything more annoying than polls where the OP assigns a reason to you for the answer you choose?

    Why not simply let responders provide their own reasons instead of a forced compliance with the OP's nonsense?
    That's what the 10 McNuggets and fries option is for. Vote for that, and tell us what you think.


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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Still on the "death panel" myth?
    This isn't about death panels. This is about rights. Rights exists in absence of the government.

    For example, the government cannot stop me from going to Church, speaking my mind, or owning a gun. It only remains a right if the government does not provide a church, a forum or a gun and ammo. Once the line is crossed from inaction to action, the right becomes a privilege. If you are on UHC, you have the privilege of living. You no longer have the right to live.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Those increases caused my employer to drop my PPO plan and only offer HSA plans.
    You were told that the PPO plans were dropped due to a $29 dollar increase? What else did they tell you?

    When I retired in '01, my employer had an $800 cap on health insurance. Unless we chose the "Cadillac" plan, we could get by with no out of pocket cost. That was great. A couple of years ago (before Obmacare) a colleague told me that the cap had been raised to $1,500, and that employees were still paying above and beyond that.

    So, if my employer (if I still had one) told me that he was dropping the current plan due to a $29 increase, I'd ask just what he'd been smoking.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You were told that the PPO plans were dropped due to a $29 dollar increase? What else did they tell you?

    When I retired in '01, my employer had an $800 cap on health insurance. Unless we chose the "Cadillac" plan, we could get by with no out of pocket cost. That was great. A couple of years ago (before Obmacare) a colleague told me that the cap had been raised to $1,500, and that employees were still paying above and beyond that.

    So, if my employer (if I still had one) told me that he was dropping the current plan due to a $29 increase, I'd ask just what he'd been smoking.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Two things I've found interesting in the discussion so far: It appears that nobody noticed that I called it "Obamneycare."

    The other thing that nobody's really pointed out is that Medicare was once as hated as the ACA. Ronald Reagan did radio ads against it back in the day. Now his party is all "Keep your government out of my Medicare." It seems that once they got used to Medicare, they liked it.

    I've been on Medicare for a few years now. Without it, who would sell me health insurance? I seriously doubt that there is much interest in selling insurance to the 70+ demographic.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It is a great idea and hopefully the first step on the road to Universial health care.
    I believe we should have UHC and also make the entire medical service industry non profit. However I feel that the ACA is just a horrible law and really does nothing to combat our current systems biggest problem and that is cost.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You forget the employer is not the only factor in the insurance. So are the insurance companies. Did you know that each person pays $29 dollars a month to cover those who do not have insurance? For the company I work for that means premiums are an extra 139200 per year on top of the already increasing premium. Now do you get it? ObamaCare sucks!
    Don't blame that cost on Obamacare...
    I guess you were aware that
    most of us who do have health insurance have been paying for the uninsured. even before Obamacare was passed.

    No one can guarantee that he or she will not need healthcare, and most people without insurance are unable to pay for the care they receive. As a result, they shift those costs to the rest of us, either because the government picks up the tab or because hospitals required to treat the sick regardless of ability to pay pass on the costs to others in higher fees. The uninsured thereby shift about $43 billion in costs each year to the rest of us, increasing the average premium for insured families by more than $1,000 a year.
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    When the uninsured become insured under Obamacare the cost to pay for the unisured should go down.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Small business.
    ?? You quoted me, then didn't respond to anything I said. What does "small business" mean?
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