View Poll Results: Will Obamney care succeed

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  • Yes, because it's a great idea

    13 19.12%
  • No, it's a terrible idea

    36 52.94%
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Thread: Will ObamneyCare work?

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That makes no sense. The employer is not mandated to have health care at all just yet. What makes sense is that the employer found a way to get out from under the costs of health insurance, at least for a while. Employees can now get their own plans at a subsidized rate, after all.
    You forget the employer is not the only factor in the insurance. So are the insurance companies. Did you know that each person pays $29 dollars a month to cover those who do not have insurance? For the company I work for that means premiums are an extra 139200 per year on top of the already increasing premium. Now do you get it? ObamaCare sucks!
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't select any of the answers because I don't think ACA is perfect. It's a step. I accept it as just that, a step in the right direction. So, if you change the nuggets and fires to To Steak and Lobster, I'd vote for that.
    Your initial premise is flawed. It's a step in the wrong direction and only suits the interests of those who made deals with Obama so that he could pass this vanity piece.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Not sure what you mean by them increasing retroactively....
    Premiums have been going up far faster than inflation since way before anyone heard of Obama or Obamacare.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It is a great idea and hopefully the first step on the road to Universial health care.
    Why would you want to give up your right to life?
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm sure they aren't. But, then, what happens when the employer mandate kicks in in a year? Are they going to fire everybody, hire them part time, or pay the cost of health insurance?

    Clearly, the way to go about this is to take the burden of health insurance off of the backs of the employers.
    That transformation is already begun, 29 hours a week is the new full time.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Premiums have been going up far faster than inflation since way before anyone heard of Obama or Obamacare.
    And they are increasing even MORE due to ObamaCare and the mandate. We were told by our insurance provider, not our company, our provider, that we each have an extra 29 dollars on our premium this year that doesn't go toward OUR healthcare, it goes toward people getting subsidies. For our company alone that is over $140,000 per year. That is ridiculous!
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If it is, in fact, a first step to uhc, then yes, it's a great idea. If it just stops there however it'll be a little disappointing.
    Why are you people so dead set on giving up your right to life? I just can't figure this out.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Why are you people so dead set on giving up your right to life? I just can't figure this out.
    Still on the "death panel" myth?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    And they are increasing even MORE due to ObamaCare and the mandate. We were told by our insurance provider, not our company, our provider, that we each have an extra 29 dollars on our premium this year that doesn't go toward OUR healthcare, it goes toward people getting subsidies. For our company alone that is over $140,000 per year. That is ridiculous!
    $29 a year is a drop in the bucket. Some years, premiums have increased 30% and more. I recall one year in which Blue Cross raised rates by 50%.

    Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is not bringing down prices, nor is it a solution to the health care crisis that has existed for years in this country. It is also not the train wreck that we're being told it is. We are, in fact, being fed a huge load of bull(bleep!) about the Affordable Care Act.
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    Re: Will ObamneyCare work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    $29 a year is a drop in the bucket. Some years, premiums have increased 30% and more. I recall one year in which Blue Cross raised rates by 50%.

    Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is not bringing down prices, nor is it a solution to the health care crisis that has existed for years in this country. It is also not the train wreck that we're being told it is. We are, in fact, being fed a huge load of bull(bleep!) about the Affordable Care Act.
    Those increases caused my employer to drop my PPO plan and only offer HSA plans.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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