View Poll Results: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

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  • California

    23 29.49%
  • Texas

    32 41.03%
  • Vermont

    1 1.28%
  • Hawaii

    5 6.41%
  • Alaska

    5 6.41%
  • Washington

    1 1.28%
  • Florida

    1 1.28%
  • Utah

    1 1.28%
  • Other State

    5 6.41%
  • Other US Territory

    4 5.13%
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    I really wish there had been snow on the summit when I was up there though.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    California could be relatively self-sufficient, if need be. Texas could work, too.
    Bull feces
    "Self-sufficiency exists NOT.
    The question should be : which "system" works best
    liberalism
    conservatism
    balance
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    Still a most interesting poll.
    me ?
    I do not know for certain....only that extremist-conservatism works NOT.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I would love it if we left.
    Quite the powerful words :
    United we stand; divided we fall.
    Maybe our American Empire will fall , as many seem to desire.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that many of the midwest states import more than they export these days. I don't have any numbers at my fingertips so I could be off, it just sounds like something I remember hearing.
    Our exports (food) serve as universal currency. It's always in need and people can't produce it at the same levels.

    You might be on to something with New York, but I'd argue that both California and Texas have the capability to produce more food than they consume and both have abundant natural & human resources.
    Not nearly enough water. Texas might be able to, but they would have to radically alter (shrink) their livestock industry (which is one of the things that makes them valuable) and become much more vegan-like than they are now.

    California's temperate, ocean-side climate allows them to produce foods that are expensive commodities, but that's about all. States that have to regulate water extensively to survive lack the fundamentals of good agriculture.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Name a state where you can surf, ski, and visit a vineyard on the same day: Californi-ayeeeeeey.
    Oregon.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Our exports (food) serve as universal currency. It's always in need and people can't produce it at the same levels.
    That is a very good point, but in order to maintain the standard of living they'd have to adjust to a strictly agriculture based economy. Perhaps it would work, but there would be a lot of adjusting for the people living in the proposed country of Kansas (for example)


    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Not nearly enough water. Texas might be able to, but they would have to radically alter (shrink) their livestock industry (which is one of the things that makes them valuable) and become much more vegan-like than they are now.
    Why would Texas have to shrink it's livestock industry, I'd see that as a great potential export. As far as water though, they have a very long coastline and with the use of distillation they could use ocean water to provide for their drinking needs. Singapore is in the process of doing that now.

    Honestly, I think Texas would be a very viable self sustaining nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    California's temperate, ocean-side climate allows them to produce foods that are expensive commodities, but that's about all. States that have to regulate water extensively to survive lack the fundamentals of good agriculture.
    California is the nations biggest food exporter, and produces more than it's population needs (agriculture, dairy, livestock, fish, etc.). Like Texas it also has abundant resources (oil, minerals, lumber and water). Beyond that it has a long standing reputation as a hub for the entertainment and technology industries, which generate lots of capital for very small input.

    Beyond that California has some of the best deep water harbors in the entire world, excellent for international commerce.

    As far as water regulation, with the Sierra-Neveada Mountains, CA generally has enough water to meet it's needs, but what is lacking could easily be overcome by the installation of distillation facilities on the coast.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Killer Cali.

    Knows how to party.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.

    Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
    Cali. They're the eleventh largest economy on the planet. Maybe Texas as well.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    Cali. They're the eleventh largest economy on the planet. Maybe Texas as well.
    What would a war between California and Texas look like?
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    What would a war between California and Texas look like?
    LOL Texas would win because they have more lax gun laws.
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