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  • California

    23 29.49%
  • Texas

    32 41.03%
  • Vermont

    1 1.28%
  • Hawaii

    5 6.41%
  • Alaska

    5 6.41%
  • Washington

    1 1.28%
  • Florida

    1 1.28%
  • Utah

    1 1.28%
  • Other State

    5 6.41%
  • Other US Territory

    4 5.13%
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.

    Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?

    Iowa (or any state in the Midwest) would make a better independent nation than any of those, because we don't need anything from anybody else. Notice that Iowa was relatively unaffected by the recession.

    New York, Texas, and California have extremely elaborate population and economic needs that make them dependent on other regions.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Iowa (or any state in the Midwest) would make a better independent nation than any of those, because we don't need anything from anybody else. Notice that Iowa was relatively unaffected by the recession.

    New York, Texas, and California have extremely elaborate population and economic needs that make them dependent on other regions.
    I think a landlocked country would have a pretty rough go.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Well if we could get rid of all the delusional carpet baggers Texas would be great!

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is Texas planning on breaking off and drifting into space in addition to leaving the country?
    ignored since someone overlooked the thread topic

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    I went with Texas because of its size..Alaska would be my second province, like upper Canada..
    The Mormon Province would include most of Utah, Idaho, sizable chunks of states like East Oregon..
    The Left coast province is easy..
    So is the Confederate province, our Quebec.
    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.

    Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Name a state where you can surf, ski, and visit a vineyard on the same day: Californi-ayeeeeeey.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Name a state where you can surf, ski, and visit a vineyard on the same day: Californi-ayeeeeeey.
    I'm pretty sure you can do this on the big island of Hawaii also.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Iowa (or any state in the Midwest) would make a better independent nation than any of those, because we don't need anything from anybody else. Notice that Iowa was relatively unaffected by the recession.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that many of the midwest states import more than they export these days. I don't have any numbers at my fingertips so I could be off, it just sounds like something I remember hearing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    New York, Texas, and California have extremely elaborate population and economic needs that make them dependent on other regions.
    You might be on to something with New York, but I'd argue that both California and Texas have the capability to produce more food than they consume and both have abundant natural & human resources.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    I'm pretty sure you can do this on the big island of Hawaii also.
    You're right. I did some search on this matter... and came up with this...

    Big Island Hawaii Skiing

    Mauna Kea (Hawaiian for 'white mountain') is a 13,796' (4205 meter) volcanic mountain whose summit sometimes gets a skiable/boardable mantle of snow. There are no lifts, no grooming, no resort, but a road goes to the summit to serve the dozen or so world class observatories located at the summit. You must have a 4-wheel drive vehicle to get to the summit, which serves as your "lift." Basically, skiers take turns being the driver, who picks up the other skiers at the bottom of the runs and ferries them up to the summit. Conditions at the top are extremely variable. Winter temperatures range from 25 to 40 degrees F (-4 to 4 C), but wind chill and the high altitude can make it seem much colder. Between April and November the weather is milder, with daytime temperatures varying from 30 to 60 degrees F (0 to 15 C)
    However, let it be known, what happens in Hawaii is skiing in the same way that setting up a tent in your backyard is camping.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    The Big Island is pretty amazing, although when I went up there I didn't see any snow at the summit of Mauna Kea.

    The bit about needing 4WD to get to the summit is a bit of an overstatement though, we made it up in a rental Ford minivan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    However, let it be known, what happens in Hawaii is skiing in the same way that setting up a tent in your backyard is camping.
    Yea, it's a relatively small area w/out lifts, but I'd argue that the best snowboarding I've ever had was on Unalaska under similar circumstances. No lifts, no trails, just an open face with powder.

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