View Poll Results: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

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  • California

    23 29.49%
  • Texas

    32 41.03%
  • Vermont

    1 1.28%
  • Hawaii

    5 6.41%
  • Alaska

    5 6.41%
  • Washington

    1 1.28%
  • Florida

    1 1.28%
  • Utah

    1 1.28%
  • Other State

    5 6.41%
  • Other US Territory

    4 5.13%
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    I voted for Hawaii. Not because it's already got experience as such (being so long ago, it wouldn't really be relevant anyway, or because it would satisfy conservatives by ACTUALLY making Barack Obama's birthplace a foreign country, or because I want to get rid of them. (Although the new Hawaii Five-O is far below the original in quality, even with the fabulous Grace Park.)

    Rather, it's because it's got four things every independent nation needs:

    1. A way to set up its own economy: All that tourism money means they'd be at least as well off as the better-off Caribbean nations. This is something the Quebec separatists didn't get: The federal government in Ottawa would have said, "Oh yeah? You don't want our government? Then you can't use our money. Good luck setting up and saving your economy."

    2. A way to set up its own military: The U.S. would probably make a deal to allow Pearl Harbor to still take in U.S. ships & servicemen, but a Hawaiian Army, Navy and Air Force would be possible. This is something the "Republic of Texas" morons have not considered: Less strategically important than Hawaii would be, the U.S. forces would pull out, and the Texans would have to defend their border with Mexico with... with... with what, exactly? The State would be majority-Hispanic in about 5 years, and the conservatives would be out of power.

    3. Universal health coverage, like every industrialized nation has. Except, of course, for America as a whole.

    4. Good relations with the U.S. Everybody likes Hawaii. Except, maybe, for the birthers.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    All of the options in the list are dependent on other states and the Federal government. None of them would do well as a stand-alone nation.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Vermont! And Bernie will lead the way!!!!


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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    I voted for Hawaii. Not because it's already got experience as such (being so long ago, it wouldn't really be relevant anyway, or because it would satisfy conservatives by ACTUALLY making Barack Obama's birthplace a foreign country, or because I want to get rid of them. (Although the new Hawaii Five-O is far below the original in quality, even with the fabulous Grace Park.)

    Rather, it's because it's got four things every independent nation needs:

    1. A way to set up its own economy: All that tourism money means they'd be at least as well off as the better-off Caribbean nations. This is something the Quebec separatists didn't get: The federal government in Ottawa would have said, "Oh yeah? You don't want our government? Then you can't use our money. Good luck setting up and saving your economy."

    2. A way to set up its own military: The U.S. would probably make a deal to allow Pearl Harbor to still take in U.S. ships & servicemen, but a Hawaiian Army, Navy and Air Force would be possible. This is something the "Republic of Texas" morons have not considered: Less strategically important than Hawaii would be, the U.S. forces would pull out, and the Texans would have to defend their border with Mexico with... with... with what, exactly? The State would be majority-Hispanic in about 5 years, and the conservatives would be out of power.

    3. Universal health coverage, like every industrialized nation has. Except, of course, for America as a whole.

    4. Good relations with the U.S. Everybody likes Hawaii. Except, maybe, for the birthers.
    I think Hawaii would be a good choice too. On top of all your other points, there is a cultural difference between native Hawaiians and us Yankee Doodles that persists and still causes friction. I would imagine that instead of needing a military they would simply be protected by us in exchange for keeping our bases.

    I think another point California has over Texas is a strong natural border. The eastern border of the state was drawn to pretty much follow the Sierra Nevadas, which would make it easily defendable. Texas has a huge open border with both Mexico and the US that would be difficult to patrol.

    Vermont would also make a nice country. I imagine it would be a kind of Switzerland of North America, really progressive and against foreign entanglements. It could cozy up nicely with Quebec and maybe induce it to secede too.

    I put Utah up because of its past as the nation of "Deseret" but today I doubt it would be a viable country. It may have a Mormon population that distinguishes it from other states, but they are too American to leave.

    Florida is really just up there because I feel sometimes they're just so crazy and problematic to the rest of the country that I wonder what it would be like to let it go. Maybe it would invade Cuba, who knows.
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    Re: Which State Would Make the Best Country?

    I voted for California, as it has the infrastructure and economy to make it as a nation, but I'd be pretty pleased if Texas decided to go it alone.

    Mexico would finally get those Mexican-American War reparations, and we'd be rid of the stinking, festering intellectual graveyard that is Texas outside of Austin.

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