View Poll Results: How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

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  • I would have supported it fully and openly.

    1 1.75%
  • I would have fallen in line and said nothing.

    0 0%
  • I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.

    3 5.26%
  • I would have passively resisted.

    16 28.07%
  • I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.

    7 12.28%
  • I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.

    10 17.54%
  • I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    20 35.09%
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    A great deal would depend on the individual's age. I was a blind patriot until I was about 22-23 and started to wake up. Vietnam was a good education. I'd have probably been brainwashed and gone along with the Nazis in my youth, but would have rebelled in my maturity. I think there are many of us that would have been exactly the same.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    nonevasive reply.
    Oh my, the hypocrisy, the irony.

    Look, if you do not understand why the statement "Muslims are inherently (insert any negative characteristic) due to their religion" is hate speech, there is no point in continuing.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh my, the hypocrisy, the irony.

    Look, if you do not understand why the statement "Muslim are inherently violent due to their religion" is hate speech, there is no point in continuing.
    I knew you would NOT be able, as you haven't Throughout to be responsive.
    You continue to Dishonestly Abuse the "quote" signs AS IF you are quoting, not characterizing me.

    Now even worse, you truncate 90% of my post in your reply.

    Besides trying to to paint me as a bigot and/or get me banned, you had ZERO, Absolutely ZERO, to say on the Subject of Islam and it's "Inherent" [violence, intolerance, terrorism] and their frequency among Muslims and their Govts/religious leaders which Would be Crucial to the debate.

    I have debated this topic scores of times on DP and I have to say No one was ever as Evasive as you.
    Everyone else at least attempted a Fact-based defense/refutation of my points.
    You were a Total Washout who only sought to Disqualify/ad-hom facts/truth.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If you lived in 1938 Germany... How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

    1) I would have supported it fully and openly.
    2) I would have fallen in line and said nothing.
    3) I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.
    4) I would have passively resisted.
    5) I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.
    6) I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.
    7) I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    I purposely did not include "Other" as an option this time, as that is a cop-out for this question. If you cannot answer given the range of options above, you're participation is not really necessary.

    ETA: Please note that the question is intended to be from a non-Jewish perspective.
    I think the assumption you are making is I would have known about it, yes?

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Right, you previously made a guilt by association argument (Muslims are terrorists, the NAZI's made the same argument against Jews, and it was based on religion) and you implied Muslims are inherently violent because of their religion.

    I'm afraid when you don't see your own negative bias against members of a certain religion, it then is pointless to even take someone as being serious when they try to claim some kind of expertise religious persecution.

    Muslims ARE engaging in international terrorism today, and a person would have to be some sort of combination of extremely stupid and extremely dishonest to think they aren't.

    Despite your pitiful attempts at framing this discussion to serve your own dishonest ends, stating the truth does not make one like a Nazi.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That is hate speech:

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    You are in violation of the forum rules.
    No he is not. It is not hate speech to say that there are people who kill and people who are killed "in the name of Islam." Nowhere did he say that all Muslims are guilty of murder. Learn the difference.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Muslims ARE engaging in international terrorism today, and a person would have to be some sort of combination of extremely stupid and extremely dishonest to think they aren't.
    And a person would be even more stupid to use that as a guilt by association argument.

    Despite your pitiful attempts at framing this discussion to serve your own dishonest ends, stating the truth does not make one like a Nazi.
    And it would be dishonest to imply I called you a NAZI, I said that by using the guilt by association argument you are using the same technique the NAZI's used when persecuting the Jews.

    And you still don't get it.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I'm pretty sure that I never mentioned 1938.

    The extermination of the Jews didn't begin until 1941, and the Final Solution wasn't implemented until 1942. The Nazi's pogrom against the Jews began in 1933.

    I took the liberty of extending the question to cover the entirety of the mistreatment against the Jews.
    Well, you're free to post whatever you like. My post was in response to the opening thread, which specified 1938.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    I would have probably given serious thought to leaving. However, I must add that my own population was being attacked years prior to that by the same regime, so any discussion about 1938 would have to be viewed through the lens that perhaps there was no reaction from me.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And a person would be even more stupid to use that as a guilt by association argument.

    And it would be dishonest to imply I called you a NAZI, I said that by using the guilt by association argument you are using the same technique the NAZI's used when persecuting the Jews.

    And you still don't get it.
    Speaking any sort of truth is engaging in guilt by association, now, is it?

    Is this the sort of crap they are teaching you at your Madrassa these days or something?
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