View Poll Results: How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

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  • I would have supported it fully and openly.

    1 1.75%
  • I would have fallen in line and said nothing.

    0 0%
  • I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.

    3 5.26%
  • I would have passively resisted.

    16 28.07%
  • I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.

    7 12.28%
  • I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.

    10 17.54%
  • I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Provided i was an adult with other options, i would have left. Hatred for jews there went back quite a long ways, so resistance within nazi germany could not accomplish much. When pretty much everyone in your area is supporting bans on jewish businesses and shoving them into ghettos, you would know what's coming next. I couldn't stand to live around "people" like that.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    I would have tried to christen my name, run to a good willing priest and kindly ask him for a baptism certificate, and stop proclaiming to be a socialist.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Well, since we have ginned up wars against three Muslim countries (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya) that did not attack us, I suspect a smattering of demonization. Eh?
    Good grief, the extent some people will go to in order to draw entirely specious comparisons

    For starters, Jews were persecuted as an ethnicity. Muslims are not an ethnicity. Jews were not involved in international terrorism. Muslims are. Jews do not proselytize. Islam was spread through proselytization and violent conquest. Jews are a tiny minority. Muslims are not.

    and most importantly, a significant number of Muslims ARE the modern day Nazis when it comes to beliefs towards Jews, especially among the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups who were actively aligned with Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Just being honest...like everyone else would like to think I'd actively resist by hiding Jews or actively resisting the government but who knows unless you've been faced with a similar situation. I think I'd at least passively resist.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Not even close. The anger and hate directed at Muslims here is barely a taste of what I'm talking about.

    Like I said in my post, if you really know the history, and if you really put yourself into Depression-Era Germany Post-WW1, it would be almost impossible not to get wrapped up in the scapegoating. Add to that a Charismatic leader telling you how great your country is, how great you, its "Volk", are and how all of it is being undermined by those Jews---the same Jews who are pushing Communism, that awful scourge which already toppled the Russian government--and it would be a given that 90-plus percent of us would get on board that train (no pun).
    Its the truth, and the truth hurts....
    And its a must that the whole world knows this; otherwise, history will repeat itself....

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Most people naivly hope for the best in any scenario, even when faced with an overwhelming and obvious truth that tells them it will be the worst that will happen.

    It happens over and over again, and is even happening these days.
    Obviously, Max, you are not "most people", but "superior".
    So then, what would you have done back in 1938 ?

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Good grief, the extent some people will go to in order to draw entirely specious comparisons

    For starters, Jews were persecuted as an ethnicity. Muslims are not an ethnicity. Jews were not involved in international terrorism. Muslims are. Jews do not proselytize. Islam was spread through proselytization and violent conquest. Jews are a tiny minority. Muslims are not.

    and most importantly, a significant number of Muslims ARE the modern day Nazis when it comes to beliefs towards Jews, especially among the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups who were actively aligned with Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's.
    I see. You are saying that these Muslims are bad dudes. Hmmm, apparently not the same as being demonized. I can't get my head up my rectum to see your point of view. I'll keep trying.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    That's a pretty tough question. It's easy to say that I would have acted differently, but the simple truth is that there's nothing unique about the German people.

    First, you would have to confront a mob. Most people just want to fit in, so they'll do whatever the mob is doing. The majority of those who disagree with the mob will just stay out of its way. Actively confronting a mob is a pretty terrifying prospect.

    Second, it was a lot like boiling a frog. The Germans didn't go straight to the Holocaust. They took a series of baby steps, with each "fixing" the "problems" the last step caused. Today is only a little bit worse than yesterday; maybe tomorrow will be a little bit better. Breaking the status quo is pretty difficult, particularly when it requires an unpleasant act.

    Third, it's not like there was nothing else going on. Germany was in a war on two fronts. A German citizen didn't have to go out of their way to find something to distract them from the horrors being done in their name. How easy would it have been to shut your eyes and concentrate on the war effort? Wouldn't that have been the patriotic thing to do? Besides, it's not like you're responsible... What can you possibly do anyway?

    In short, most Germans did nothing. Put into the same situation, most Americans would do the same. I'd like to think that I'm independent enough to mount an opposition; but I have to admit that the odds aren't exactly in my favor.
    Except, of course, in 1938 Germany was not at war on two fronts. They weren't even at war on one front. They weren't at war at all.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I see. You are saying that these Muslims are bad dudes. Hmmm, apparently not the same as being demonized. I can't get my head up my rectum to see your point of view. I'll keep trying.
    Your comparison between the Jews of 1938 Germany and the Muslims of the United States is ludicrous. I can only conclude you are totally ignorant of what was going on in Germany at all levels of society in 1938.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Most of the Jews I have known did or their parents had.
    Lots of my family did, but some didn't. Some were killed, some survived and went to live in Israel.
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