View Poll Results: How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

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  • I would have supported it fully and openly.

    1 1.75%
  • I would have fallen in line and said nothing.

    0 0%
  • I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.

    3 5.26%
  • I would have passively resisted.

    16 28.07%
  • I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.

    7 12.28%
  • I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.

    10 17.54%
  • I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    20 35.09%
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    That's a pretty tough question. It's easy to say that I would have acted differently, but the simple truth is that there's nothing unique about the German people.

    First, you would have to confront a mob. Most people just want to fit in, so they'll do whatever the mob is doing. The majority of those who disagree with the mob will just stay out of its way. Actively confronting a mob is a pretty terrifying prospect.

    Second, it was a lot like boiling a frog. The Germans didn't go straight to the Holocaust. They took a series of baby steps, with each "fixing" the "problems" the last step caused. Today is only a little bit worse than yesterday; maybe tomorrow will be a little bit better. Breaking the status quo is pretty difficult, particularly when it requires an unpleasant act.

    Third, it's not like there was nothing else going on. Germany was in a war on two fronts. A German citizen didn't have to go out of their way to find something to distract them from the horrors being done in their name. How easy would it have been to shut your eyes and concentrate on the war effort? Wouldn't that have been the patriotic thing to do? Besides, it's not like you're responsible... What can you possibly do anyway?

    In short, most Germans did nothing. Put into the same situation, most Americans would do the same. I'd like to think that I'm independent enough to mount an opposition; but I have to admit that the odds aren't exactly in my favor.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    With my 21st Century mindset, probably #4 and maybe #6 if the situation presented itself (I'm not naturally outspoken). If I'd been brought up in early 20th Century Germany though, it's perfectly possible that my opinion would be different.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    That's a very difficult question to which I don't know the answer. Most people hope they would do the right things but when actually in the circumstance its hard to say if personal fears, fears of retribution carried out on loved ones, etc. would have an effect especially without the hindsight of history of knowing the Nazis would be defeated and would go down in history are one of the most evil regimes in modern history. All I can say for sure is we as people are terribly flawed and I feel horrible just thinking about it.

    One thing that does worry me is learning how group dynamics aka tribalism can taint how otherwise fair and rational people can misdefine right and wrong, give the wrong done by "our side" a convenient pass or offer complicity support. Its really easy IMHO for people to caught up in the "our side is right" mentality and defining "right" by group association. I've tried to help people how are blinded to their own vulnerabilities in that area and see how all of us can allow emotion and tribalism to corrupt our sense of right and wrong but in online forums doing so is often prohibited under violations of discussion board courtesy and risks being labeled "baiting."
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    I'm black, so I'd be ****ed anyway.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Personally, knowing what I know about the time and place, most of us would have been glad to cart off the Jews, and almost all of us would have played a huge part in making it happen.

    That's not to justify it...but, it makes the most sense. Why? Because that is how propaganda works. The Jews were painted as the worst thing since moldy bread. It would have been nearly impossible to resist the urge to hate them.

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Personally, knowing what I know about the time and place, most of us would have been glad to cart off the Jews, and almost all of us would have played a huge part in making it happen.

    That's not to justify it...but, it makes the most sense. Why? Because that is how propaganda works. The Jews were painted as the worst thing since moldy bread. It would have been nearly impossible to resist the urge to hate them.
    Sorta like Muslims get painted in the current scenario, eh?

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    oh the german people knew about what was going on. there were death camps set up right next to cities and people saw the jews being marched to the camps after they arrived on the trains.
    The bulk of that was later, in 1938 things were bad for the Jews, but it was just the beginning.
    http://holocaustlearning.org/uploads...ersecution.pdf

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    The bulk of that was later, in 1938 things were bad for the Jews, but it was just the beginning.
    http://holocaustlearning.org/uploads...ersecution.pdf
    i suggest you read the book hitlers death camps: the sanity of madness by Dr. Konnilyn Feig. she wrote that book based on her expierance of visiting all 19 death camps and meeting with witnesses. she was also my history teacher in at foothill college.

    Hitler's Death Camps: The Sanity of Madness: Konnilyn G. Feig: 9780841906761: Amazon.com: Books

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Sorta like Muslims get painted in the current scenario, eh?
    Not even close. The anger and hate directed at Muslims here is barely a taste of what I'm talking about.

    Like I said in my post, if you really know the history, and if you really put yourself into Depression-Era Germany Post-WW1, it would be almost impossible not to get wrapped up in the scapegoating. Add to that a Charismatic leader telling you how great your country is, how great you, its "Volk", are and how all of it is being undermined by those Jews---the same Jews who are pushing Communism, that awful scourge which already toppled the Russian government--and it would be a given that 90-plus percent of us would get on board that train (no pun).

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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

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