View Poll Results: How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

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  • I would have supported it fully and openly.

    1 1.75%
  • I would have fallen in line and said nothing.

    0 0%
  • I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.

    3 5.26%
  • I would have passively resisted.

    16 28.07%
  • I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.

    7 12.28%
  • I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.

    10 17.54%
  • I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    20 35.09%
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Thread: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This is true, but it is also the easy answer.
    While it is a easy answer no one in 1938 Germany grew up the same way any of us did or had our experiences.And no one in the US today grew up in German around 1938.As far as we know if anyone who picked options 2-6, you or I and grew up around in 1938 Germany and knew what Hitler was doing we might have fully supported what he was doing.

    This also sidesteps the fact that many people today place blame on those who did nothing to stop it.
    Its easy to place blame because we know the results. We know Hitler and his fellow nazis were monsters. We know for a fact those monsters killed millions of people.And we care about what happened back then. Also if we speak out no one is going to arrest or kill us. So yes it is easy for us to blame those who did nothing.
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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm Jewish. I would have left.
    I would have protected you brother

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    I'm not a hero; I would have passively resisted. Unless I was forced to choose between risking my safety or trying to protect people that I knew from imminent death, knowing that I had the means to effectively hide them.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If you lived in 1938 Germany... How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

    1) I would have supported it fully and openly.
    2) I would have fallen in line and said nothing.
    3) I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.
    4) I would have passively resisted.
    5) I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.
    6) I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.
    7) I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    I purposely did not include "Other" as an option this time, as that is a cop-out for this question. If you cannot answer given the range of options above, you're participation is not really necessary.

    ETA: Please note that the question is intended to be from a non-Jewish perspective.
    No option for joining an actual resistance movement?

    Other than that, I admit I wouldn't have done ****. I'm not getting my kneecaps drilled by the SS in some ****ing damp basement, just for the sake of 'making a point' that wouldn't have changed a single thing. Especially not if I'd had a family to worry about, also.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I would have protected you brother
    lulz

    Yeah. For the split second it took the Kraut to aim at you and pull the trigger.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    No option for joining an actual resistance movement?

    Other than that, I admit I wouldn't have done ****. I'm not getting my kneecaps drilled by the SS in some ****ing damp basement, just for the sake of 'making a point' that wouldn't have changed a single thing. Especially not if I'd had a family to worry about, also.
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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Threads like this are honestly silly. No one has any idea what they would have done in some alternate life.


    It's like asking

    "What if electricity was never invented?"
    "What if my parents never met?"
    "What if Hitler got into art school?"

    You'll never know.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    No. 6
    Ah! My apologies.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If you lived in 1938 Germany... How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

    1) I would have supported it fully and openly.
    2) I would have fallen in line and said nothing.
    3) I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.
    4) I would have passively resisted.
    5) I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.
    6) I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.
    7) I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    I purposely did not include "Other" as an option this time, as that is a cop-out for this question. If you cannot answer given the range of options above, you're participation is not really necessary.

    ETA: Please note that the question is intended to be from a non-Jewish perspective.
    One can never really know. But assuming I was fully aware, I hope I would do four through six. But none of us can really be sure.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Luckily for me, I don't think the most effective thing for saving Jewish people would have been being outspoken against it. This would have saved me from confronting any cowardice I harbor.

    I would have actively sought to find quiet ways to help Jewish people, and I believe I would have been successful finding those ways. But I would have been frightened out of my wits doing so. I think that quietly helping Jewish people avoid arrest and/or helping them escape would have been the most effective means of helping them. I think it is the duty of a citizen to oppose their own government when it is like this, in at least this way, despite the personal risk. When you just "go along to get along" in this kind of situation, you are a party to the horror. In order not to be, in order to "be neutral", you must not contribute anything in any way to the functioning of the corrupt society, including work at a career or job. I think we all need to understand this. I think it is the true essence of the saying "Evil happens when 'good' people stand by and do nothing." In such a situation, you must find the smartest, most effective way, to thwart evil, and you must scrounge up the courage to oppose it in whatever way that is.

    In such a situation, it would have been difficult to know when the moment had arrived to join an insurrection, which is the only way things would have changed. In the case of Germany, I don't think they were ever anywhere close to such a moment. Open defiance would have simply been suicidal, and accomplished nothing.

    Of course, we can all talk big here on the Internet, and of course that is what I am doing. However, we must establish in our minds what is required, and do it during the easy times in order to have any hope of any kind of clarity should this type of evil arise. Hopefully we will live up to it when called upon to do so.
    You can never be safe from a government that can keep you completely safe from each other and the world. You must choose.

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