View Poll Results: How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

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  • I would have supported it fully and openly.

    1 1.75%
  • I would have fallen in line and said nothing.

    0 0%
  • I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.

    3 5.26%
  • I would have passively resisted.

    16 28.07%
  • I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.

    7 12.28%
  • I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.

    10 17.54%
  • I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    20 35.09%
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I said Muslims are Inherently/INORDINATELY Violent, Terroristic, and Intolerant.
    Just finish the statement..."and it is because of their religion."
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Do you have Any Answer to my post?
    Again. you aint gettin out of it/pasting over it.
    Now you and everyone else will see your Goofy LIES for another page.
    Your post was Non-responsive and INSANE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    No no.....I asked: if by guilt of association are ALL AMERICANS also terrorists because of one or more American terrorists. You keep avoiding the question.
    And I NEVER Said "All muslims are terrorists"
    In fact, I Specifically Warned against that BS Strawman MORE Than once in our exchange.
    WTF!
    Yet you try it anyway.
    From my FIRST Post to you.
    Top of Page 6, #51
    mbig: "(But please spare us the strawman word 'terrorism', though they are hugely Over-represented/near-sweep in that field too. But no, Not "all muslims are terrorists". Doh)"

    I said Muslims are Inherently/INORDINATELY Violent and Intolerant and a "near-sweep" in Terrorist count.
    And My Links Back me.
    They are Wildly and Disproportionately So.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimme

    I gave you the "why"....because of their Americanism.
    Again, you seem to be implying but avoiding the direct question, "Are Muslims inherently violent because of their religion?".
    Try again, Mr backfire.
    Fixed it for you.
    What the hell are you talking about.
    NAME The Terror attacks committed because they were "Americanist". How many? There are 200 Muslim terror attacks a MONTH.
    I gave you THOUSANDS because Muslims were Islamist.
    (an Inordinately high amount)
    In fact there are more 'American' Muslim Terrorists that any other 'American' Terrorists combined.
    I Linked 50 such plots Since 9/11 alone.
    AGAIN, How many for other Americans?
    Not to mention the Worldwide/Inherent/Thematic Jihad.

    Your posts are beneath Incoherent. Really.. Intentionally Impossible/scrambled eggs to debate.
    So I just hold them up for the abuse they deserve.

    This is Frigging NUTS/Butterfly Nets. You are nonresponsive/Shredded/LOST and you know it, short-quoting my posts.
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Just finish the statement..."and it is because of their religion."
    and still not so much as a single word from you on the original question.

    Is that because you are the one who is on record as supporting it fully and openly?
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    re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Moderator's Warning:
    If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104] If you lived in 1938 Germany, How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution? That is the topic of this thread. Let's focus on the topic only please.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's how you know them

    Because they left
    True, though, I have known individuals that survived Auschwitz and other Lagers.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    I voted #5 for that is what we did in fact!

    Jews ran from Deutchland and came to us here. We protected them and with that much we put ourselves in harms way. Albanians in Deutchland may have done the same.
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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    oh the german people knew about what was going on. there were death camps set up right next to cities and people saw the jews being marched to the camps after they arrived on the trains.
    Most Germans had no clue about the Holocaust. Sure they knew about the persecution and the concentration camps but they had no idea that mass exterminations were going on. To be frank, such concentration camps and persecution were the norm during that time. The public response to the Kristallnacht convinced the German leadership that they wouldn't tolerate such violence openly.
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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If you lived in 1938 Germany... How do you believe you would have reacted to Jewish persecution?

    1) I would have supported it fully and openly.
    2) I would have fallen in line and said nothing.
    3) I would have said nothing openly, but not actively supported it.
    4) I would have passively resisted.
    5) I would have openly resisted and been outspoken against it.
    6) I would have been willing to put myself physically in harms way to protect them.
    7) I like to think I would have done #4 thru #6, but probably would have done #2 or #3.

    I purposely did not include "Other" as an option this time, as that is a cop-out for this question. If you cannot answer given the range of options above, you're participation is not really necessary.

    ETA: Please note that the question is intended to be from a non-Jewish perspective.

    I do not think anyone today can accurately predict how they would have behaved in 1938 Germany. We didn't have their upbringing, lifestyle and societal and cultural influences,
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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Most Germans had no clue about the Holocaust. Sure they knew about the persecution and the concentration camps but they had no idea that mass exterminations were going on. To be frank, such concentration camps and persecution were the norm during that time. The public response to the Kristallnacht convinced the German leadership that they wouldn't tolerate such violence openly.
    A little-known fact.


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think anyone today can accurately predict how they would have behaved in 1938 Germany. We didn't have their upbringing, lifestyle and societal and cultural influences,
    This is true, but it is also the easy answer. This also sidesteps the fact that many people today place blame on those who did nothing to stop it.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: If you lived in 1938 Germany...[W:104]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post



    This is true, but it is also the easy answer. This also sidesteps the fact that many people today place blame on those who did nothing to stop it.
    As to blame, when a failure is systematic, then the entire system needs to be addressed. At the heart of any such atrocity are many socializing influences, not the least of which being the basic need to conform to the society at large. It's hardwired into us to one degree or another.

    When we look back upon the Nazification of Germany, we do so in hindsight, and we condense time in such a way that we perceive change as sudden rather than gradual. I see it a bit like boiling lobsters in that society adjusted to incremental changes in such a way that the new normal became hotter and hotter and this was a process more gradual than people realize. The need for order runs strong in people, and if the changes are gradual enough, they will cling to this order even when the overall changes are dramatic. In the case of he Nazis, what began as a fringe movement in the 20s gained steam over two decades, the underlying themes feeding and magnifying many preexisting prejudices and finally came into full flower many years later.
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