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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    As I said earlier, knowing which party wants to use us as pawns is extremely important to know. I have enjoyed our conversation this morning but I am officially 27 minutes late to work. My boss is a complete ass hole and won't put up with this! I'm self employed.
    Yeah, I'm about 10 minutes late... and my boss... me... is pretty lenient about those kinds of things.

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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    As I said earlier, knowing which party wants to use us as pawns is extremely important to know. I have enjoyed our conversation this morning but I am officially 27 minutes late to work. My boss is a complete ass hole and won't put up with this! I'm self employed.
    Whatever you do, don't fire yourself. Jobs are hard to get in this economy.

    Sure, it's important to know which party to blame. Right now, it looks like the two major ones shoulder most of it. It's time for a third party.
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    Re: What's more important?

    The Fed refers to the Federal Reserve Bank, which I don't think was shut down.

    The effects are more important than the blame game BS.

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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The difference is Reps made an opening offer and asked for negotiations to begin, Dems are the ones that said my way or the highway and refused to talk.
    That's one perspective. Another is the Democrats already negotiated to drop their 1.2 trillion dollar request down to the Republicans 980 some billion prior to the Republicans adding the defunding rider to the CR. Hence the stalemate, one side feeling they had a negotiated deal and the other saying it is time to negotiate. Such is life in Washington D.C.
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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Whatever you do, don't fire yourself. Jobs are hard to get in this economy.

    Sure, it's important to know which party to blame. Right now, it looks like the two major ones shoulder most of it. It's time for a third party.
    That has been my feeling for a very long time. The major stumbling block to a viable third party is the election laws are written by the Republicans and Democrats as a mutual protection act making next to impossible for a third party to rise above irrelevance. Being part of Perot's two campaigns, I saw this first hand. Since then the two major parties have strengthen the laws in an attempt to make sure another Perot doesn't rise. They also took the presidential debate away from the League of Women's voters to ensure that no third party candidate is again allowed to participate in them. Then there is the money problem, corporations and wall street spread around their hundreds of millions to the two major party candidates and they do not want to have to add a third.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That has been my feeling for a very long time. The major stumbling block to a viable third party is the election laws are written by the Republicans and Democrats as a mutual protection act making next to impossible for a third party to rise above irrelevance. Being part of Perot's two campaigns, I saw this first hand. Since then the two major parties have strengthen the laws in an attempt to make sure another Perot doesn't rise. They also took the presidential debate away from the League of Women's voters to ensure that no third party candidate is again allowed to participate in them. Then there is the money problem, corporations and wall street spread around their hundreds of millions to the two major party candidates and they do not want to have to add a third.
    That sums up the situation pretty well. Meanwhile, the voters just aren't willing to ignore the propaganda coming from the unholy alliance between big business and the two major parties and vote their best interests.

    When money talks, people listen.
    When people talk, money just sits there.
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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That sums up the situation pretty well. Meanwhile, the voters just aren't willing to ignore the propaganda coming from the unholy alliance between big business and the two major parties and vote their best interests.

    When money talks, people listen.
    When people talk, money just sits there.
    I think Perot summed it up and he borrowed this from someone else, perhaps George Wallace back in 1968. He said we have only one political party with two wings, the Republican wing and the Democratic wing. Now come to think of it, George said there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between the two parties. So it must have been someone else.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think Perot summed it up and he borrowed this from someone else, perhaps George Wallace back in 1968. He said we have only one political party with two wings, the Republican wing and the Democratic wing. Now come to think of it, George said there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between the two parties. So it must have been someone else.
    I don't know who said it, but the fact of the matter is that there really is very little difference between the two parties. It's like Coke and Pepsi, they're pretty much the same, but each one still has its loyal followers.
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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I don't know who said it, but the fact of the matter is that there really is very little difference between the two parties. It's like Coke and Pepsi, they're pretty much the same, but each one still has its loyal followers.
    I've been an RC man all my life and can remember when Pepsi was known as PepsiCo and was the fourth or fifth ranking cola. But yes, I agree. The rhetoric is completely opposite, but the actions remain the same.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: What's more important?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    From what I've seen, the American dollar has boomed over the past couple of weeks against all major currencies and while there have been a few bumps in the markets, the Dow is doing booming business this morning.

    Never forget, in times of economic and financial upheaval, the American dollar and the American stock markets are both the safest havens for money world-wide. Only fools are selling off America now.

    This is a political game, nothing more, nothing less. But your country's financial health may depend on how determined Republicans are to keep the pressure on.
    Did you read the article? Investor confidence is down.
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