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  • Democrats still lose if they pass a clean C.R.

    0 0%
  • Democrats willl lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.

    3 17.65%
  • Democrats win if they pass a clean C.R.

    6 35.29%
  • Democrats will still win if they don't pass a clean C.R.

    2 11.76%
  • Republicans will lose if they pass a clean C.R.

    7 41.18%
  • Republicans still lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.

    7 41.18%
  • Republicans will still win if they pass a clean C.R.

    2 11.76%
  • Republicans will win if they don't pass a clean C.R.

    2 11.76%
  • Other

    3 17.65%
  • I do not know

    1 5.88%
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    Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean C.R.

    Who loses and who wins if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean C.R.?

    Democrats lose if they pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats win if they pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats win if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans lose if they pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans win if they pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans win if they don't pass a clean C.R.
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    I believe that the side that caves in will be the loser and the side that doesn't cave will be the winner. If democrats cave in to delaying or de-funding Obama-care then they lose voters.If they remain firm and get a clean C.R. passed then they win. If republicans cave into passing a clean C.R. then they lose voters. If republicans remain firm and succeed in either defunding or delaying Obama-care then they win. Basically the voting base in each of the major parties will be pissed off if their side bitches out and caves in. While the voting bases in the parties will be pleased if their side does not bitch out and refuses to cave in.
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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    If republicans can stick with it while mr.wawawant man keeps refusing to talk they will win the war and the battle.

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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    In terms of public opinion, the Republicans will likely lose in either scenario. While the Healthcare law is unpopular at this stage, the tactics being used in an attempt to upend it are simply unacceptable in the view of most.

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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    This budget ransom demand is a sure vote loser for Republicans. No matter what the resolution is. Nobody likes being held hostage, especially the USA electorate.

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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    This budget ransom demand is a sure vote loser for Republicans. No matter what the resolution is. Nobody likes being held hostage, especially the USA electorate.
    ^ Totally false. The "ransom demand" is by the Democrats in the Senate.

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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    I think Democrats win either way. If the Teabaggers continue to hold the GOP by the balls, they drive the country further and further against the GOP--which is a win for the Democrats.

    If they pass a clean budget bill, I think the Democrats win by standing strong, but the GOP wins because they can come across as the party that gave in to end the standoff. In my opinion, its the only way that the Republicans come out of this without losing their complete hide.
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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    This budget ransom demand is a sure vote loser for Republicans. No matter what the resolution is. Nobody likes being held hostage, especially the USA electorate.
    How is "Put the budge vote to an up/down vote" a ransom demand? Seriously dude.......The only ransom demand is by the teabaggers and the GOP....that we are going to run the entire economy off the cliff if you don't give into our demands.
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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Who loses and who wins if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean C.R.?

    Democrats lose if they pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats win if they pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats win if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans lose if they pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans win if they pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans win if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Other
    I do not know


    I believe that the side that caves in will be the loser and the side that doesn't cave will be the winner. If democrats cave in to delaying or de-funding Obama-care then they lose voters.If they remain firm and get a clean C.R. passed then they win. If republicans cave into passing a clean C.R. then they lose voters. If republicans remain firm and succeed in either defunding or delaying Obama-care then they win. Basically the voting base in each of the major parties will be pissed off if their side bitches out and caves in. While the voting bases in the parties will be pleased if their side does not bitch out and refuses to cave in.
    In terms of elections, the Republican Party has already lost by pitting two rival wings of their organization against each other. Their House majority depends on an alliance of moderates and Tea Party candidates, and the Tea Party (1) keeps trying to seize territories in regions they don't have enough ideological influence over and (2) set a radical agenda for the entire Republican Party, making it impossible for moderates to achieve anything that might please their constituents.

    They might still hold the House this upcoming election, but it hasn't done anything for the long term viability of their party.
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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Who loses and who wins if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean C.R.?

    Democrats lose if they pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats win if they pass a clean C.R.
    Democrats win if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans lose if they pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans lose if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans win if they pass a clean C.R.
    Republicans win if they don't pass a clean C.R.
    Other
    I do not know


    I believe that the side that caves in will be the loser and the side that doesn't cave will be the winner. If democrats cave in to delaying or de-funding Obama-care then they lose voters.If they remain firm and get a clean C.R. passed then they win. If republicans cave into passing a clean C.R. then they lose voters. If republicans remain firm and succeed in either defunding or delaying Obama-care then they win. Basically the voting base in each of the major parties will be pissed off if their side bitches out and caves in. While the voting bases in the parties will be pleased if their side does not bitch out and refuses to cave in.
    Americans are notorious for their short attention span. Two months after this is over it will be long forgotten by most of the voters. The last shut down was for 21 days, Dec 5, 1995 to Jan 6, 1996 and by election time it was a non-factor. This one will be the same.
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    Re: Who loses and who wins votes if one side does or doesn't cave on passing a clean

    I don't think you give us half-Americans enough credit for having a sharp attention span.
    The Koch brothers put out a letter today that distanced themselves from what the TEAteats did with the CR and DEBT.
    Treasure bills doubled in interest last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Americans are notorious for their short attention span. Two months after this is over it will be long forgotten by most of the voters. The last shut down was for 21 days, Dec 5, 1995 to Jan 6, 1996 and by election time it was a non-factor. This one will be the same.

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