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    "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    The Koch Brothers’ ‘Samson Option’ | Consortiumnews

    "Of course, many pragmatic rich folk understand how the extraordinary U.S. system – built by the sweat and ingenuity of countless “average Americans” and protected by the blood of heroic common citizens – has made their fortunes possible. These patriotic multi-millionaires cringe at the spectacle of a U.S. government shutdown and panic at the thought of defaulting on U.S. debt.
    But the right-wing billionaires and their political front groups welcome the current chaos. Indeed, they began planning today’s fiscal crisis as soon as their stunning defeat of last November sank in. Rather than behave as a loyal opposition, the Right started plotting soon after Obama took the oath of office a second time, as the New York Times reported:
    “Shortly after President Obama started his second term, a loose-knit coalition of conservative activists led by former Attorney General Edwin Meese III gathered in the capital to plot strategy. Their push to repeal Mr. Obama’s health care law was going nowhere, and they desperately needed a new plan.
    “Out of that session, held one morning in a location the members insist on keeping secret, came a little-noticed ‘blueprint to defunding Obamacare,’ signed by Mr. Meese and leaders of more than three dozen conservative groups. It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government. "

    OK, is the 1/10th of 1% the originator of this plan?

    Why do the wealthy want to sink Obamacare: because it will give something to the 99% and cost the 1%?

    Who do you trust?

    The 1% is about helping everybody? When pigs fly!

    Read the whole story, the truth will set you to fury.
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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Wait, so at no point is anyone in the GOP gonna be forced to grow long hair?







    Because that would be awesome.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    The 0.01%ers probably did this but not for the 'something to the 99% and cost the 1%' reason. IMO, this defund/repeal was a ruse to deeply entrench both sides to ensure the PPACA DIDN'T go away as the right didn't have the power to do either. In fact it is certainly something that will cost the 99% (not paying now but are mandated soon) and profit the 1%ers mightily. Sure the 99% will get HEALTH INSURANCE but their new (scarce)monies injected into health/medical injected will be harvested by the 1% as usual.
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The 0.01%ers probably did this but not for the 'something to the 99% and cost the 1%' reason. IMO, this defund/repeal was a ruse to deeply entrench both sides to ensure the PPACA DIDN'T go away as the right didn't have the power to do either. In fact it is certainly something that will cost the 99% (not paying now but are mandated soon) and profit the 1%ers mightily. Sure the 99% will get HEALTH INSURANCE but their new (scarce)monies injected into health/medical injected will be harvested by the 1% as usual.
    That's likely true, but now the 1% is getting their money from energy and war subsidization and then it will be from something that has a secondary benefit to the 99%. That seems a positive change to me. Vertical Integration of health care will be unavoidable, but still better than "war for profit."

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    This is a thread that reveals the details behind the current "shutdown" and indicates it is a well-planned event. That gives me the willies because it indicates that a default could be another step in that plan and the actors could profit handsomely by shorting stocks and going long on metals with their advance knowledge of the plans. Do anyone else suspect there might be shysters who would use this morass for personal financial gain? I use the term "shysters" loosely to incorporate politicians, as well as financial gurus.

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Shouldn't this be in the conspiracy forum.

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That's likely true, but now the 1% is getting their money from energy and war subsidization and then it will be from something that has a secondary benefit to the 99%. That seems a positive change to me. Vertical Integration of health care will be unavoidable, but still better than "war for profit."
    The secondary benefit to the 99% health INSURANCE, making them broker is positive change?
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The secondary benefit to the 99% health INSURANCE, making them broker is positive change?
    I'm optimistic that it will force cutbacks in the "War Machine," and subsidization of Big energy like OIL and Nukes. A net financial balance.

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Shouldn't this be in the conspiracy forum.
    The reporting is factual. Apparently you did not read the linked document.

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    Re: "The Koch Brothers Samson Option"

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The reporting is factual. Apparently you did not read the linked document.
    Just what every conspiracy theory says. Maybe they're being controlled by the Trilateral Commission.

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