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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I'm glad we at least agree on the first part.

    The only people who concentrate on the message are the people who are trying to sell a lousy product. Good ideas sell themselves.
    [Note: I corrected a small typo in my earlier post]

    "Good ideas sell themselves."


    Which is why the Left invariably opposes individual thought and has such a predilection for sloganeering ("Yes we can," "Hope 'N' Change".) The actual substance of their "message" must never be examined by the commoners." This is why Beck and Limbaugh and Levin encourage people to research issues for themselves.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    The falsehood is in presenting a static class system. There is no such thing where economic freedom abounds. Those in a low SES, can and do move up and sometimes the rich fall. Gird your loins and run the race! Don't slow down for the handout is my advice.
    The challenge here is that the vast majority of the disaffected and poor think that the game is rigged, that they have no chance to succeed.

    Getting them to "gird their loins and run the race" they think is rigged against them is a catch-22, as in order for them to attempt to run the race they have to have faith that the game is not rigged against them, they have to have political leadership already in charge that reflects the centrist traits I presented in my initial post in this thread (to which you responded initially), political leaders who are neither left-wing extremist (prone to socialist handouts) or right-wing extremist (prone to elitist economics) and who thus support a truly fair game and exhibit that support in their policies .. however, the disaffected and poor are likely to vote for the socialist rescue candidate because, at the time of the election, no leader has actually shown in policy implementation that the overwhelming vast majority of these people actually have a chance to "win" in some way.

    Since neither the liberal Dems (for certain) or the conservative Repubs (it appears) will field such a trustworthy and centrist candidate, it is likely that the growing mass of disaffected and poor will elect the liberal Dem candidate again and who will then only make matters worse.

    This is a challenge in a country where popular vote elects representatives and times are tough (un-recovered Great Recession), as people crave immediate help (rescue) and rescuers have the codependent tendency to perpetuate in their economic climate policies that cause the masses to crave the need for rescuing.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    [Note: I corrected a small typo in my earlier post]

    "Good ideas sell themselves."


    Which is why the Left invariably opposes individual thought and has such a predilection for sloganeering ("Yes we can," "Hope 'N' Change".) The actual substance of their "message" must never be examined by the commoners." This is why Beck and Limbaugh and Levin encourage people to research issues for themselves.
    If you think President Obama is part of "the Left," then you don't have the slightest understanding of politics. The actual Left considers him a conservative.

    Beck, Limbaugh and Levin encourage their listeners to do research on sources they, the announcers, trust. Sources that cannot be trusted by rational people.

    The truth is, this country has never had a Left President.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    The challenge here is that the vast majority of the disaffected and poor think that the game is rigged, that they have no chance to succeed.

    Getting them to "gird their loins and run the race" they think is rigged against them is a catch-22, as in order for them to attempt to run the race they have to have faith that the game is not rigged against them, they have to have political leadership already in charge that reflects the centrist traits I presented in my initial post in this thread (to which you responded initially), political leaders who are neither left-wing extremist (prone to socialist handouts) or right-wing extremist (prone to elitist economics) and who thus support a truly fair game and exhibit that support in their policies .. however, the disaffected and poor are likely to vote for the socialist rescue candidate because, at the time of the election, no leader has actually shown in policy implementation that the overwhelming vast majority of these people actually have a chance to "win" in some way.

    Since neither the liberal Dems (for certain) or the conservative Repubs (it appears) will field such a trustworthy and centrist candidate, it is likely that the growing mass of disaffected and poor will elect the liberal Dem candidate again and who will then only make matters worse.
    Bull. Liberal Democratic candidates make it better every time.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Conservative Republican candidates make it worse every time.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    Bull. Liberal Democratic candidates make it better every time.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Conservative Republican candidates make it worse every time.
    And yet you just posted this above:

    The truth is, this country has never had a Left President.
    That would mean I suppose that every president from the beginning has made things worse in your opinion. Silly extremism.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by comunitee View Post
    if you think president obama is part of "the left," then you don't have the slightest understanding of politics. The actual left considers him a conservative.
    . . ..
    roflol!

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    [Note: I corrected a small typo in my earlier post]

    "Good ideas sell themselves."


    Which is why the Left invariably opposes individual thought and has such a predilection for sloganeering ("Yes we can," "Hope 'N' Change".) The actual substance of their "message" must never be examined by the commoners." This is why Beck and Limbaugh and Levin encourage people to research issues for themselves.
    You actually believe that don't you?

    Also every party uses slogans, to accuse one or the other of doing it too much is silly. The GOP literally wrote a song based around the slogan "We built that."

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You actually believe that don't you?

    Also every party uses slogans, to accuse one or the other of doing it too much is silly. The GOP literally wrote a song based around the slogan "We built that."
    Of course I believe it. My politics are based in reality, I'm moderately historically aware and I revel in thought. I also except the utter inflexibility of arithmetic, which the common Leftist serf does not, can not.

    I've been engaged in political discourse for a long time now. I feel no need whatsoever to revise my opinion the the Common Leftist is averse to analytical thought. Almost any discussion I ever have with any of them involves their recitation of prejudices, assumptions, slogans and fantasies that they appear to be incapable of examining.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    [Note: I corrected a small typo in my earlier post]

    "Good ideas sell themselves."


    Which is why the Left invariably opposes individual thought and has such a predilection for sloganeering ("Yes we can," "Hope 'N' Change".) The actual substance of their "message" must never be examined by the commoners." This is why Beck and Limbaugh and Levin encourage people to research issues for themselves.
    No they don't. Rush, Glen, and Hannity thrive on ignorance, fear, and sensationalism.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Of course I believe it. My politics are based in reality, I'm moderately historically aware and I revel in thought. I also except the utter inflexibility of arithmetic, which the common Leftist serf does not, can not.

    I've been engaged in political discourse for a long time now. I feel no need whatsoever to revise my opinion the the Common Leftist is averse to analytical thought. Almost any discussion I ever have with any of them involves their recitation of prejudices, assumptions, slogans and fantasies that they appear to be incapable of examining.
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