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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    No. I may be wrong where it comes to operations, but the reality is that corporations are not people.

    Reality has a liberal bias.
    that's just stupid partisan hackery. Liberals are emoters on issues like economics, firearms laws and foreign relations Bible thumpers are equally idiotic on issues like flag burning gay rights and school prayer.

    what "liberals" (in reality reactionary parasitic statists) having going for them is that there are more losers than winners and liberal agendas pander to losers and those who want others to pay for what they want



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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Where is the centrist philosophically? If one is a pragmatic, looking for short term answers to immediate problems, maybe just maybe a centrist is the best bet. However if one has a systematic governing philosophy that has one goal in mind, that is protecting the freedom of the individual. The centrist is culpable in the destruction of that goal. In your opinion on a scale of 1-10, 1 being totalitarian, 10 being anarchy; Where would you put the founding fathers, modern libertarians, GOP conservatives, Dem progressives, and finally where are the centrists? Curious to know how far you think we should be willing to go as the centrist position slides further to the left.
    Irrelevant digression.

    One should not have a "systematic governing philosophy that has one goal in mind, that is protecting the freedom of the individual".

    One should have a governing philosophy that in dynamic balance protects both the freedom and the security of the individual and society.

    The centrist position does not slide either to the left or the right.

    The centrist position is simply that: centrist, in that it strives to create a dynamic balance between freedom and security, between liberty and justice those create respectively.

    Thus the centrist position can never be to the left (economic security over economic freedom and social freedom over economic security) or to the right (economic freedom over econonmic security and social security over social freedom) as otherwise the slid position itself, then favoring either freedom or security over the other with respect to economic or social issues, would no longer be centrist.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Redd View Post
    In an interview with The Washington Post, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the oldest Supreme Court Justice and also one of the most liberal, said that she predicts another Democrat in the White House
    She is under pressure to retire while Obama is in the White House. She doesn't want to retire. She has one of the most interesting jobs in the world. And - whatever you think about Scalia or Kennedy "ideologically" - chatting with them over lunch should be a little more intellectually rewarding than playing bingo (or whatever it is retired upper class Jewish ladies do). Of course she "predicts another Democrat".

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Redd View Post
    In an interview with The Washington Post, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the oldest Supreme Court Justice and also one of the most liberal, said that she predicts another Democrat in the White House.

    From The Washington Post:

    Do you agree with her? or is she just a crazy old bat?
    Will he be someone who spends more time playing golf than working? If so, then yeah, I'd believe the crazy old bat. Once the precedent is set that the office of the President of the United States is just another entitlement position, then every Dem worth his salt will be clamoring for a tee time.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    She is under pressure to retire while Obama is in the White House. She doesn't want to retire. She has one of the most interesting jobs in the world. And - whatever you think about Scalia or Kennedy "ideologically" - chatting with them over lunch should be a little more intellectually rewarding than playing bingo (or whatever it is retired upper class Jewish ladies do). Of course she "predicts another Democrat".
    lol, I noticed you didn't mention Thomas there

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    WTF is a Supreme Court Justice doing making public partisan political comments?!
    Really. We should revoke her freedom of speech.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Obama IS a centrist President. Only flakes like Ted Cruz think he's a flaming liberal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    False, obviously.

    Obama is the nation's leading Multi-Cultural Internationalist, and that alone makes him a solid left-winger, a liberal.

    His position on amnesty and legalizataion for 20 million illegal aliens and the economic ramifications of such, Obmacare (obviously), his encouragement of corporations hiring people from other countries instead of Americans, his position on abortion, his position on the oxymoronic "gay marriage", his position on spend, spend, spend big government .. all testify to what we've long intuitively known, that Obama is a liberal, obviously, and clearly.
    Newsflash: We have a nation of over 300 million people. A big nation requires big government with big spending. You want to live with "smaller government"? Move to Somalia.

    If Obama were the "solid left-winger" you want people to believe he is, he would have socialized the energy industry, the banking industry, the insurance industry and Walmart, confiscated their profits -- and thus balanced the budget. (Well, maybe cut the deficit in half.)

    If Obama were a "left-winger," he would have actually done what you lying right-wingers said he did: "Rammed socialized medicine down our throats." He would have forced universal health care on us. Instead, he chickened out on the public option, and adopted Heritagecare/Romneycare as Obamacare, a plan that will make the insurance industry billions, because they will have millions of new customers. Obamacare is not socialist. It is as capitalist as hell.

    If Obama were a "left-winger," he would have pulled all troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, struck down all aborition and immigration restrictions, legalized drugs, and confiscated guns. He has done none of those things.

    The true left-wingers of this country feel a frustration with him that is nearly equal to your hatred of him.

    Also, one of the things you people hate the most about him is the spying thing. That is not something a liberal would do. An authoritarian would (either communist, left, or fascist, right), but no liberal would do it.

    You call Obama a "solid left-winger" and yourself a "centrist." If you truly believe either half of that, then neither half is true.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    No. I may be wrong where it comes to operations, but the reality is that corporations are not people.

    Reality has a liberal bias.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's just stupid partisan hackery. Liberals are emoters on issues like economics, firearms laws and foreign relations Bible thumpers are equally idiotic on issues like flag burning gay rights and school prayer.

    what "liberals" (in reality reactionary parasitic statists) having going for them is that there are more losers than winners and liberal agendas pander to losers and those who want others to pay for what they want
    You libertarians are even crazier than the conservatives. You're so selfish, you make neocons look like Christians.

    Yes, there are more losers than winners. That's because there are sabotagers. As James Madison, a man of whom you may or may not have heard, once said, "If men were angels, no government is necessary." Translation: Men are not angels, and some of them are predators, so we have governments to make, and enforce, laws to protect people from predators.

    Whose side are you on? The poor people, or the people keeping them poor? It's not themselves, and you know it. Whether you accept it determines whether you can be trusted with the "self-government" that you libertarians love to rant about. Because if you can't accept it, then, like a child, a criminal, or someone who is mentally ill, you are not mentally competent enough to govern yourself.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    Obama IS a centrist President. Only flakes like Ted Cruz think he's a flaming liberal.


    Newsflash: We have a nation of over 300 million people. A big nation requires big government with big spending. You want to live with "smaller government"? Move to Somalia.

    If Obama were the "solid left-winger" you want people to believe he is, he would have socialized the energy industry, the banking industry, the insurance industry and Walmart, confiscated their profits -- and thus balanced the budget. (Well, maybe cut the deficit in half.)

    If Obama were a "left-winger," he would have actually done what you lying right-wingers said he did: "Rammed socialized medicine down our throats." He would have forced universal health care on us. Instead, he chickened out on the public option, and adopted Heritagecare/Romneycare as Obamacare, a plan that will make the insurance industry billions, because they will have millions of new customers. Obamacare is not socialist. It is as capitalist as hell.

    If Obama were a "left-winger," he would have pulled all troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, struck down all aborition and immigration restrictions, legalized drugs, and confiscated guns. He has done none of those things.

    The true left-wingers of this country feel a frustration with him that is nearly equal to your hatred of him.

    Also, one of the things you people hate the most about him is the spying thing. That is not something a liberal would do. An authoritarian would (either communist, left, or fascist, right), but no liberal would do it.

    You call Obama a "solid left-winger" and yourself a "centrist." If you truly believe either half of that, then neither half is true.
    Your if-then premise-conclusions are clearly false, contrived, erroneous jumps.

    On the surface of form, they make for good rhetoric, which is thus typical of "very liberal" (as you self-describe) extremists.

    But on easy examination of substance, they are revealed to be huge fails.

    As always.

    A word to the wise: if a "very liberal" individual is opposed to a critique of someone or their policies, odds are high that that which is being critiqued lives very close to the the "very liberal" complaining individual's ideologically extremist door, a lot closer than the other side perspective of that which is being critiqued.

    Now that's an if-then premise and conclusion we can substantively take to the bank.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Really. We should revoke her freedom of speech.
    Where you aware, that military officers have curtailed free speech, that they can't for instance publicly criticized the president? This would not be an unprecedented limitation.
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