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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Put down the thesaurus, deflate the ego, and come down to Earth, no one going around talking about their intellectual superiority to other people is going to be taken seriously
    Oh, but you're wrong, else there'd be no President Obama.

    And I rarely have recourse to a thesaurus, though I recommend them to persons not conversant with our tongue.

    As for myself, I am taken quite seriously in some quarters, and in this happy circumstance, I rest content.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    If you think president obama is part of "the left," then you don't have the slightest understanding of politics. The actual left considers him a conservative.



    You're damn right I did. My parents knew that if they wanted me to have religious instruction, it had to be in the church, where it was free, and not at a school where hustlers in collars indoctrinate children for profit.
    Once again, you display the Modern Left's unwillingness to consider wider possibilities, locked as they are in their simplistic misunderstanding of their political and fiscal betters. I made no reference at all to religious instruction, or to religious schools. My casual thought was of the inherently superior private school system. You jumped, as the typical Leftist can so readily be counted upon, to the prepackaged conclusion your grossly simplified and fantastical worldview insisted upon.

    (I typically assume that strident Modern Leftists have had poor Judeo-Chritian religious instruction, by the way, since those religions strong injunctions against covetousness, and theft, lying, respect for one's parents, and perjury, are incompatible with Collectivist political ideologies.)
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Redd View Post
    In an interview with The Washington Post, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the oldest Supreme Court Justice and also one of the most liberal, said that she predicts another Democrat in the White House.

    From The Washington Post:


    Do you agree with her? or is she just a crazy old bat?

    Source: Rare.us | Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House.
    I don't expect another Republican President anytime in the foreseeable future. The GOP has offended too many large voting blocks while "appealing to the base." They've created an image of being in the back pockets of super-wealthy corporate interests at the expense of the middle-class who in a New York minute will cut their pay, outsource their jobs to China and slash benefits in order to give themselves huge salaries and bonuses. Most significant, they've made the fastest growing constituencies in the country out to be the enemies of America and think pandering to them in Spanish and sticking anybody black on TV is or in the audience to be seen when these constituencies know full well its an entirely 180 degree different message they give the base is going to deliver votes on Election Day.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Did you think that I was being smug? I object strenuously!

    I was being condescending.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Bull. Liberal Democratic candidates make it better every time.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Conservative Republican candidates make it worse every time.


    Obama IS a centrist President. Only flakes like Ted Cruz think he's a flaming liberal.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Already debunked and shown as the extremist screed it is by your own words.
    You haven't debunked squat. You haven't even tried. And if you did try, you would fail.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I disagree with the personhood for corporations decisions of the SCOTUS, but they have made those decisions, and thus you are wrong where it comes to reality.
    No. I may be wrong where it comes to operations, but the reality is that corporations are not people.

    Reality has a liberal bias.

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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Redd View Post
    In an interview with The Washington Post, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the oldest Supreme Court Justice and also one of the most liberal, said that she predicts another Democrat in the White House.

    From The Washington Post:


    Do you agree with her? or is she just a crazy old bat?

    Source: Rare.us | Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House.
    I'd give the Democrats the slightest of edges due to demographic reasons, but this far out its practically a coin flip. A big thing will be if the Democratic gains in places like Charlotte, Indianapolis, Dallas, Orlando, and other cities like that are permanent. Obama got killed far worse than Gore, Kerry, and Clinton in more rural areas, but he took out even bigger gains around swing to Republican cities like those. Worst case scenario for Republicans is if a candidate like Hillary can keep those cities as Democratic as they are while returning to even Gore levels of Democratic support elsewhere.

    Obviously it also depends on what the national politics are. If its a wave election either way, none of the above will matter, but it's too far out to say which way the country will be leaning.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I'd give the Democrats the slightest of edges due to demographic reasons, but this far out its practically a coin flip. A big thing will be if the Democratic gains in places like Charlotte, Indianapolis, Dallas, Orlando, and other cities like that are permanent. Obama got killed far worse than Gore, Kerry, and Clinton in more rural areas, but he took out even bigger gains around swing to Republican cities like those. Worst case scenario for Republicans is if a candidate like Hillary can keep those cities as Democratic as they are while returning to even Gore levels of Democratic support elsewhere.

    Obviously it also depends on what the national politics are. If its a wave election either way, none of the above will matter, but it's too far out to say which way the country will be leaning.
    Because of the growing Hispanic vote its expected that Texas, Arizona and Georgia blue states possibly as soon as 2016. If Puerto Rico gains statehood, that's 7 to 9 more solid democrat EC votes. If just one goes blue, I think its pretty much over for the GOP except state office especially in rural areas. The only thing that could flip the script IMHO would be a huge Watergate type scandal by the democrats and/or getting arrogant and governing against the will of the majority just because they think they're invincible.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    Obama IS a centrist President. Only flakes like Ted Cruz think he's a flaming liberal.
    False, obviously.

    Obama is the nation's leading Multi-Cultural Internationalist, and that alone makes him a solid left-winger, a liberal.

    His position on amnesty and legalizataion for 20 million illegal aliens and the economic ramifications of such, Obmacare (obviously), his encouragement of corporations hiring people from other countries instead of Americans, his position on abortion, his position on the oxymoronic "gay marriage", his position on spend, spend, spend big government .. all testify to what we've long intuitively known, that Obama is a liberal, obviously, and clearly.
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    Re: Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicts another Dem in the White House. Do you Agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    The challenge here is that the vast majority of the disaffected and poor think that the game is rigged, that they have no chance to succeed.

    Getting them to "gird their loins and run the race" they think is rigged against them is a catch-22, as in order for them to attempt to run the race they have to have faith that the game is not rigged against them, they have to have political leadership already in charge that reflects the centrist traits I presented in my initial post in this thread (to which you responded initially), political leaders who are neither left-wing extremist (prone to socialist handouts) or right-wing extremist (prone to elitist economics) and who thus support a truly fair game and exhibit that support in their policies .. however, the disaffected and poor are likely to vote for the socialist rescue candidate because, at the time of the election, no leader has actually shown in policy implementation that the overwhelming vast majority of these people actually have a chance to "win" in some way.

    Since neither the liberal Dems (for certain) or the conservative Repubs (it appears) will field such a trustworthy and centrist candidate, it is likely that the growing mass of disaffected and poor will elect the liberal Dem candidate again and who will then only make matters worse.

    This is a challenge in a country where popular vote elects representatives and times are tough (un-recovered Great Recession), as people crave immediate help (rescue) and rescuers have the codependent tendency to perpetuate in their economic climate policies that cause the masses to crave the need for rescuing.
    Where is the centrist philosophically? If one is a pragmatic, looking for short term answers to immediate problems, maybe just maybe a centrist is the best bet. However if one has a systematic governing philosophy that has one goal in mind, that is protecting the freedom of the individual. The centrist is culpable in the destruction of that goal. In your opinion on a scale of 1-10, 1 being totalitarian, 10 being anarchy; Where would you put the founding fathers, modern libertarians, GOP conservatives, Dem progressives, and finally where are the centrists? Curious to know how far you think we should be willing to go as the centrist position slides further to the left.

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