View Poll Results: Does this admninistration act like children?

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  • yes, it is embarrasising

    28 65.12%
  • no, I think it is cool they are blocking off public exhibits

    4 9.30%
  • They are just assholes

    17 39.53%
  • Anything to screw with the public is ok with me

    2 4.65%
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Thread: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    If they were children you could spank them and send them to bed without their dinner
    they are monsters dead set on the destruction of our nation
    a lil bit a difference there eh?

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    What you are saying right now is that the Democrats are to blame for Republicans making unreasonable demands, and not succumbing to them. This is absolutely preposterous. Just because you want it to be so does not mean that something is by any means reasonable.

    Asking the Democrats to defund Obamacare was a crock, and a failed bluff by the Congressional Republicans. This has only resulted only in them losing face and having the country incredibly inconvenienced.

    If the corporations and Unions are not ready for this I do not think that the bulk of the people are ready. Also a majority of States are not willing to run their own systems since the States cannot afford to do so. (Temporary funding is temporary.) Also there is not likely to be as much purchasing from the 20-somethings that are required to make it solvent. It would be in their best interest to take the penalty and that is if they can afford that. ( You cannot squeeze blood from a turnip.)

    And with respect to defunding so far this is an action to delay implementation. The Republicans hope that the Elections will go their way in 2014 and then they would be able to try to repeal it.
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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    It's a Republican shutdown. It's a shame this small group of Cruz novices, who don't understand how the federal govt works, was allowed to force a shutdown by the leaders in the House.

    But it's a losing game to blame the shutdown on Obama. For one thing, what is shut down is the decision of bureaucrats, not Obama. And it's a thing decided ahead of time, although it can be altered a bit, I think. But "nonessentials" are decided at intervals, by people in the govt, for occasions such as this. They didn't get together in a smoke filled room one night and decide what to shutdown. It's predetermined, for the most part. But I'm sure Cruz researched this and knew that, right? I'm sure he knew veterans establishments would be shut down, some veterans wouldn't receive health care, children with cancer wouldn't be able to get treatments, children who rely on federal subsidies for food would have to go hungry, etc. He knew all that, right?

    But you either have a shutdown or you don't. You don't declare a shutdown, then oops! decide to UN-shutdown some things that are unpopular with your constituents, picking some people as more important than others. Are veterans more important than children with cancer? Are healthy veterans who want to visit a memorial more important than ailing veterans in dire need of health care? There's a story about this in the Bible. It's about Soloman and a baby. But I'm sure Cruz knows that story, right?
    Not necessarily untrue, but... the Administration, chooses how it's done, so to try and absolve the Administration of any blame is a losing game as well. As is trying to push off the blame on mindless/faceless bureaucrats. President Obama could have easily said, "No, putting barricades around the WW2 Memorial is not what I think we should be doing, take them down.", but he didn't.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not necessarily untrue, but... the Administration, chooses how it's done, so to try and absolve the Administration of any blame is a losing game as well. As is trying to push off the blame on mindless/faceless bureaucrats. President Obama could have easily said, "No, putting barricades around the WW2 Memorial is not what I think we should be doing, take them down.", but he didn't.
    He could have not allowed it, I suppose. But why? The Memorial was shut down by the Republicans in the House. It's off limits. There's no staff, no grounds maintenance, no security, no parking attendants, and whatever else staff is required to maintain any public grounds. If you're going to open the Memorial, then why not retract the shutdown, so the Memorial grounds can be staffed, secure, safe, and all public agencies open to all. Children going without cancer treatments are as important as veterans who want to visit the Memorial.

    This is just grandstanding by the tea party politicians to placate their constituents, when they realized what a shutdown means and that their constituents don't like it. Cruz, Palin, & another politician turned the veterans protest today into a hate filled political rally, all but calling Obama a muslim, not American, and demanding our elected President leave the country. Can't get more unpatriotic and undemocratic (not to mention KKK type hateful and hate filled) than that.

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