View Poll Results: Does this admninistration act like children?

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  • yes, it is embarrasising

    28 65.12%
  • no, I think it is cool they are blocking off public exhibits

    4 9.30%
  • They are just assholes

    17 39.53%
  • Anything to screw with the public is ok with me

    2 4.65%
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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freemind USMC View Post
    Wow, is there any place on the internet I can get away from bias? This poll is another sham poll. If this is an argument, you would ask if any of the parties involved are to blame. Not just varying degrees of one ideology's right over the other obviously wrong one.

    Is the Administration acting like children? No. The GOP is. As I understand it there were some GOP budget cuts already in the piece the House passed, that the Senate said they would also approve. I will have to look up the number. But the GOP wants everything they want and if they dont get it, they won't put it up for a vote even.

    So who is acting like children?

    They don't have the votes to get it done legislatively, and the ACA was upheld in the Supreme Court even with Roberts, Scalia, Alito, and Thomas on the bench.

    They are not only acting like children but setting a dangerous precedent. Lets get to the brink of default, and because we don't like something refuse to move forward until the minority's agenda is passed. Wait til the shoe is on the other foot, and the Dems do it to the GOP. Because now they will. Bad politics breeds more bad politics.

    What should be done, is what we should expect them to do. Fund legislation to get us out of the emergency. THEN, work towards changing legislation they do not like. IF they cannot get it done through votes, then the system has worked. The people have spoken.

    Now whether or not the voice of the people is an accurate representation of the good of the people is another matter. We have corporate controlled media, who believe the ends justify the means, and that viewpoints are not right or wrong but instead market share or market dynamics, feeding the population with corn syrup news via an IV drop all day every day, feeding us with false truths, half truths, misdirected facts and opinions masqueraded as fact. They are dividing right and wrong between them into left and right (black or white analogy). Converting issues and substance into opposition to the other party, so that truth and fiction are hard to tell apart anymore. Once we don't know what is truth and what is partisan cattle prods guiding us where they want us to go, into our opposite camps, then we believe anything they say. How do you find truth in all of that? Combine that with the fact that our politicians are placed in office not by us, but by corporate and wealthy donors courtesy of PAC's, Super PACs, and other contributions, and they owe their donors more than their constituencies. We are just cattle falling into line following the media as it tells us where to go and what to believe..... Sorry getting sick of the partisanry and lack of grasp on reality in this public domain.
    IF the GOP wanted everything as you say, the debt ceiling would not continue to be raised as it has been in the past with no slow down on spending.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    I can accept disagreements, due to differences of opinion. I cannot accept willful ignorance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    You must be deaf then.
    No, my hearing is just fine. So is my vision (when I have my glasses on), and I can see the willful ignorance of conservatives and libertarians very well.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    We are not talking about the current state of negotiations, we are talking about the cause of the whole situation.

    However still that is not true. There is no real compromise set forth by the house. The congressional republicans just asking for less concessions just not justify a compromise in any reasonable person's mind. Tell me one thing the Democrats have requested as a concession from the Republicans since this situation has started.

    To retort your second point, the only non-consequential delays I could find were for employers, which wouldn't even really delay Obamacare itself, it would only delay their requirement to provide an insurance plan. So that political "butt-buddy" comment really doesn't make much if any sense.
    It's all in the framing isn't it? The only position, the only request the dems have had from the beginning is our way or nothing. The repubs started with the defunding of Obamacare and compromised with a one year delay instead.

    As to that last, how about giving us all the same exemption given to their political butt buddies? Your take on what is consequential is not to be trusted.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Not according to Charles Krauthammer..
    Charles Krauthammer: Where is Ted Cruz now? - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.com
    Calling Lee and Cruz "generals leading troops to the Little Big Horn, then go home and have lunch, with troops out there.
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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee View Post
    I can accept disagreements, due to differences of opinion. I cannot accept willful ignorance.

    No, my hearing is just fine. So is my vision (when I have my glasses on), and I can see the willful ignorance of conservatives and libertarians very well.
    When Krauthammer calls Cruz and Lee the 'Kamakazie brigade,
    I couldn't resist my Kamakazie Kruz Klowns.
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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Article I, Section 9, Pgh 7:
    No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.

    It's kind of disgusting to attempt to use the bravery of those men as political fodder. Imagine the terror those guys felt as the ramp dropped. And somehow you're going to try and associate that with a GOP temper tantrum?

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Article I, Section 9, Pgh 7:
    No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.

    It's kind of disgusting to attempt to use the bravery of those men as political fodder. Imagine the terror those guys felt as the ramp dropped. And somehow you're going to try and associate that with a GOP temper tantrum?
    The appropriations have already been made by law when congress authorized the memorial. Those appropriations are now obligations.

    And what's disgusting is the attempt to use the bravery of those men as political blackmail by the dems.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The appropriations have already been made by law when congress authorized the memorial. Those appropriations are now obligations.

    And what's disgusting is the attempt to use the bravery of those men as political blackmail by the dems.
    The two laws establishing the monument.
    Text of H.R. 1247 (106th): World War II Memorial Completion Act (Introduced version) - GovTrack.us
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-10...-107publ11.htm

    The funding language:
    ‘(d) USE OF MEMORIAL FUND- The memorial fund shall be available to the Commission for--

    ‘(1) the expenses of establishing the World War II memorial, including the maintenance and preservation amount provided for in section 8(b) of the Commemorative Works Act (40 U.S.C. 1008(b));

    ‘(2) such other expenses, other than routine maintenance, with respect to the World War II memorial as the Commission considers warranted; and

    ‘(3) to secure, obtain, register, enforce, protect, and license any mark, copyright or patent that is owned by, assigned to, or licensed to the Commission under section 2103(l) of this title to aid or facilitate the construction of the World War II memorial.
    Sorry, yet another incorrect statement by a tea partier. Congress didn't allocate any special resources for the day to day operations of the WWII memorial.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Rutabaga.

    Poll is totally skewered, biased and silly.

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    Re: Is this administration just a bunch of children?

    Like children? Not really. Acting like a child would imply some level of innocence or not understanding when they do something wrong.

    The assholes part? Definitely. I "like" Obama on Facebook to follow updates and whatnot. Instead of acting like a mature leader willing to work and compromise literally all of his recent posts have been about attacking the Tea Party, Republicans, and highlighting how they want food to be unsafe or some other partisan crap.
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