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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Certainly if prostitution is legalized there would be many benefits to visiting legal prostitutes as opposed to illegal ones which would tend to put a dent in the black market. It works the same way with legalizing drugs.
    Lol... I JUST debunked this myth in post 40.
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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol... I JUST debunked this myth in post 40.
    All of those links are about other countries. A lot of those countries don't have the money or resources to enforce any kind of regulations, as I'm sure you are well aware.

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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol... I JUST debunked this myth in post 40.
    Her and Crylek aren't saying the same thing. Are you contending that making prostitution legal wouldn't cut into the profits of the black market just as it would with drugs, and has with alcohol after the dirty thirties? Human trafficking doesn't really effect the loss of business people who do this illegally would have due to it being legal.
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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    All of those links are about other countries. A lot of those countries don't have the money or resources to enforce any kind of regulations, as I'm sure you are well aware.
    What other countries? I posted a link where many countries where prostitution is legalized and regulated and the same problem persists - since you didn't even bother to read the links here are a few:

    Germany:

    A criminal investigation in Germany in 1998 found that 87.5 percent of the women trafficked into Germany were from Eastern Europe. Seventeen percent were from Poland, 14 percent from Ukraine, 12 percent from Czech Republic and 8 percent from the Russian Federation.
    Greece:

    Lena, aged 21, was recruited by a woman who said her daughter was working in Greece and making a lot of money. When Lena arrived in Greece, her passport had been taken away and she was put into a small room in a brothel guarded by two dogs. She was sold in prostitution each night from nine in the evening until six in the morning. When she escaped and returned to Mykolayiv she had US$55.00.
    Italy:

    In Milan, Italy in December 1997, police uncovered a gang that was holding auctions of trafficked women from the former Soviet Union. The women were stripped partially naked, displayed and sold for an average price of US$1000. Traffickers and pimps use extreme violence to control their women and territory.
    These women aren't being sent to Macedonia to work. They're being sent to countries where people have the money to spend on prostitution.

    Sex trafficking | Prostitution | Eastern Europe | GlobalPost

    Western demand for Eastern European prostitutes fuels today’s sex-slave industry. Currently, the market for Slavic woman and children in brothels and in pornography in "developed" countries — particularly the EU and the U.S. — is the hottest compared to other parts of the world, and is drawing on an endless supply of impoverished and vulnerable women.
    Seriously - if you're going to debate this subject at least have a friggin clue as to what it is you're discussing.
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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'll pardon your ignorance on this subject all you want. Trafficking women is done by legally moving them through countries.
    I'll pardon your inability to read what other people write as well: They are not legal immigrants. They have to right to work legally there. Which makes them entirely dependent on the traffickers.

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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    Her and Crylek aren't saying the same thing. Are you contending that making prostitution legal wouldn't cut into the profits of the black market just as it would with drugs, and has with alcohol after the dirty thirties?
    On this topic? I am. Bringing the government into the mix by legalizing prostitution would simply create a bigger need for cheaper prostitutes. In essence, prostitutes would become too expensive for the average joe, criminal enterprises would then begin trafficking women they can sell cheaper. What makes human trafficking attractive is the fact that you can force somebody to work for free while making a profit.
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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    I'll pardon your inability to read what other people write as well: They are not legal immigrants. They have to right to work legally there. Which makes them entirely dependent on the traffickers.
    I'll make it simple for you, here's a simple example of the legal immigration of prostitutes:

    1. Guy puts out an ad looking for girls who want to work as secretaries in X country.
    2. Girls reply to the ad, they are provided with visa (insuring entry into the country) and all legal documentation to the enter the country.
    3. Girls are then repeatedly raped, drugged and beaten.
    4. They are forced to work off their debt even if they are legally living within the country.

    This happens every single day to thousands of women - no amount of legalization/regulation will stop it and it's all for the same reason that Nike/Apple having sweatshops isn't anything remotely new. Nothing beats free laborers. Nothing.
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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I always thought if I ever gpt desperate enough that I had to steal, i'd rob pimps. Karma free.
    Except if prostitution were legal you'd be robbing what are essentially agents. Legal agents.

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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What other countries? I posted a link where many countries where prostitution is legalized and regulated and the same problem persists - since you didn't even bother to read the links here are a few:

    Germany:



    Greece:



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    These women aren't being sent to Macedonia to work. They're being sent to countries where people have the money to spend on prostitution.

    Sex trafficking | Prostitution | Eastern Europe | GlobalPost



    Seriously - if you're going to debate this subject at least have a friggin clue as to what it is you're discussing.
    None of these countries are comparable to the United States. Sorry.

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    Re: If prostitution were legal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'll make it simple for you, here's a simple example of the legal immigration of prostitutes:

    1. Guy puts out an ad looking for girls who want to work as secretaries in X country.
    2. Girls reply to the ad, they are provided with visa (insuring entry into the country) and all legal documentation to the enter the country.
    3. Girls are then repeatedly raped, drugged and beaten.
    4. They are forced to work off their debt even if they are legally living within the country.

    This happens every single day to thousands of women - no amount of legalization/regulation will stop it and it's all for the same reason that Nike/Apple having sweatshops isn't anything remotely new. Nothing beats free laborers. Nothing.
    And that goes on MORE now because there are absolutely no regulations and those women are scared by those men because of our laws.

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