View Poll Results: How Bad Could it Be?

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  • Dems cave in again, allowing the debt to be used as a political tool

    5 15.15%
  • Landslide election for one side in 2014

    8 24.24%
  • Republican rebellion forces Boehner down

    4 12.12%
  • House impeaches Obama

    4 12.12%
  • Economic slump

    9 27.27%
  • Recession

    12 36.36%
  • Depression

    18 54.55%
  • Civil War

    1 3.03%
  • World War

    0 0%
  • End of USA as we know it

    1 3.03%
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Thread: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    News flash.....people program computers. You can try and deflect the failure of your beloved regime all you want, bit that doesn't mean the reality of who is to blame will be yours to deliver. Facts matter. Yours are skewed and false. Hence your relevance.


    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The Treasury has stated that they cannot just pay bond holders. Payment is by computer program. Don't sugar coat this, we will default on our debt if the limit is not raised.
    The ramifications will be huge and the blame will all be on the House Republicans. They may be run out of town on a rail.

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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well Canadian news is already calling it a civil war between the far right Republicans and the centre-right Democrats.


    **** Canada, they treat their citizens like cattle

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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    **** Canada, they treat their citizens like cattle
    No they don't trust me I am one.

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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    No they don't trust me I am one.
    Why don't they trust you?
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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Why don't they trust you?

    He is one of the mad cow Canadians. We don't trust that type of Canadians, they are crazy
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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    No they don't trust me I am one.
    they do, I work for a global company and our associates in Montreal and Vancouver hate the healthcare system there and being forced to give up so much of their income for it.

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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Sorry they want me to download an app to read their story so I couldn't, but any media presentation that suggests "default" is merely doing the lefts bidding and is not true to the facts. The facts are simple. Not borrowing more money does not mean default. It means the regime must choose what to spend 3 trillion on when it wants to spend 3.6 trillion. If the regime doesnt pay on its loans (default) then its on the regime and it's beloved dictator and no one else. The money is there to pay 80% or more of the bills. What bills it pays is up to the regime.
    Maybe you should read the actual opinion of professionals.
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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    here's a fairly exhaustive analysis of the potential default and what might happen :

    Absolutely everything you need to know about the debt ceiling

    there's no upside to this. we need to agree that we will not default under any circumstances.
    Good article. Here's a question: would it be worth Obama and the Dems negotiating with the House if they passed a law eliminating the debt ceiling? I might favor that if the concessions were small but enough to let Republicans "save face." They can celebrate that they repealed the $30B medical device tax, and the rest of the world can be relieved that the artificial barrier to solvency has been destroyed forever.
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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Those arent pros those are propagandist / journalist wiporth an agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Maybe you should read the actual opinion of professionals.

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    Re: How Bad Could it Be? (Shutdown/Debt Limit)

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Good article. Here's a question: would it be worth Obama and the Dems negotiating with the House if they passed a law eliminating the debt ceiling? I might favor that if the concessions were small but enough to let Republicans "save face." They can celebrate that they repealed the $30B medical device tax, and the rest of the world can be relieved that the artificial barrier to solvency has been destroyed forever.
    there is simply no way that the Republicans would agree to eliminate the debt ceiling in exchange for the medical device tax. the repeal of that tax is barely going to even get the government open again.

    what needs to happen is that we keep a ceiling in place, collect enough taxes, and prioritize spending so that we don't hit the new ceiling. that would going to require a wipeout of an election, though.

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