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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    At least we get to see how our legislators voted on every single bill! Maybe that's why Reid is being so vocal on this? :

    Greetings, ocean515.
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    I'm of the opinion the grand "we", as in all of us, should be paying close attention to what is being done by all. Reid has already had to appologize for his over the top rhetoric, and there will need to be some explaining for the punative political circus being commanded by the White House to make citizens "feel the pain".

    The reasons for the House of Representatives being the starting point for Federal Spending was known to our Founding Fathers, but apparently is missing in many people today.

    It seems to me there are quite a few people who need to revisit elementary school for a refresher on the basics of the Federal Government.

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Please post any evidence that the U.S. House of Representatives is proceeding in a manner that is not specifically granted by the United States Constitution.

    Again, your opinion is noted, but this issue is based on facts, which seem to be in short supply.
    You need to go back and re-read some other the older emails. I've clearly said that there is a difference between "Can" and "Should". I've never said that the tantrums and the extortionist methods that the teabaggers are using is Unconstitutional. It IS however, childish, immature and silly. And thankfully....75% of the American public are seeing the GOP is their "finest form". Afterall....take Boner's own words at their face value: "This is how the party of No governs".
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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You need to go back and re-read some other the older emails. I've clearly said that there is a difference between "Can" and "Should". I've never said that the tantrums and the extortionist methods that the teabaggers are using is Unconstitutional. It IS however, childish, immature and silly. And thankfully....75% of the American public are seeing the GOP is their "finest form". Afterall....take Boner's own words at their face value: "This is how the party of No governs".
    I suppose I should suggest that you go back and re-read my responses. I've only thanked you for your opinion, and I have added the fact they are perfectly within the Constitutional charter to present bills as they see fit.

    It is not for the Senate to reject them because they don't like what the House sends over. It doesn't work like that, and the sooner the Democrats realize it, the better the country will be. As it is, despite the rhetoric, the Democrat controlled Senate, and to a lessor degree the White House, or holding the country hostage. I suppose it would be appropriate to borrow the President's words and state Democrats are holding a gun to the head of citizens, with little regard for their well being, or the well being of others so affected.

    The Founding Fathers understood this, why such a struggle to face facts?

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
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    More like "spin is spin". The only ones responsible for the Government shut down are the Repubs. America gets it....despite the spin.
    Watching you complain about "spin" when you are spinning like a top is hilarious. You've been directly shown that the majority of AMericans blame BOTH SIDES for the Shutdown, not just the Republicans...but you just keep on spinning while chastising others for doing it like every other die-hard propagandist. Which people should really be thankful for, since people like you and others who put forth these type of idiotic, ignorant, dishonest, transparent spinning arguments are basically just waiving a large flag that says "I SAY STUPID ****, IGNORE EVERYTHING I SAY. I JUST MINDLESSLY RESPOUT MY PARTIES TALKING POINTS!" It makes it easier to know whose words to simply look and laugh at rather than actual take as some kind of serious, honest, intellectually sincere salient point.

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    There were already negotiations on the CR and the House Republicans got all the amounts they wanted on it. Now they want something else in addition to and unrelated to the CR and it is unacceptable. Where does it say that Govt. can be shut down for demands not related to the budget?

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There were already negotiations on the CR and the House Republicans got all the amounts they wanted on it. Now they want something else in addition to and unrelated to the CR and it is unacceptable. Where does it say that Govt. can be shut down for demands not related to the budget?
    I'm thinking that when it comes to the CR, if the House Republicans got all the amounts they wanted on it, we wouldn't be in the place we are now.

    With that in mind, it might be that you are mistaken about a few things.

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm thinking that when it comes to the CR, if the House Republicans got all the amounts they wanted on it, we wouldn't be in the place we are now.

    With that in mind, it might be that you are mistaken about a few things.
    You would think the T's would have been happy to get what is virtually the Ryan budget even though he lost the election on it, but NO. They wanted more. Extortionists are never happy it appears. A bill with spending levels of Paul Ryan is sitting on Boners desk right now.


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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There were already negotiations on the CR and the House Republicans got all the amounts they wanted on it. Now they want something else in addition to and unrelated to the CR and it is unacceptable. Where does it say that Govt. can be shut down for demands not related to the budget?
    The first step outlined in the source I gave you describes the president's submission of a budget. Have you seen one? I haven't. In fact, nobody has seen that because it doesn't exist. With that in mind, we are left to constitutionally described powers and actions, and nothing I have seen would indicate that the House has violated any of them. Over 80% of the government is functioning, so it's hardly "shut down".

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The first step outlined in the source I gave you describes the president's submission of a budget. Have you seen one? I haven't. In fact, nobody has seen that because it doesn't exist. With that in mind, we are left to constitutionally described powers and actions, and nothing I have seen would indicate that the House has violated any of them. Over 80% of the government is functioning, so it's hardly "shut down".
    The Senate passed a budget in March and Boner refused to negotiate it. The House has violated the trust of the American people and it is up to voters to enforce that trust. I am optimistic that they will.

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    Re: Does Piecemeal Funding Reveal the Republicans to be Hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The Senate passed a budget in March and Boner refused to negotiate it. The House has violated the trust of the American people and it is up to voters to enforce that trust. I am optimistic that they will.
    Boner? Who is Boner? I think you have a basic misunderstanding of the actual budget process, and exactly what has led to the constant crisis mode we find ourselves facing as a country year after year after year since Obama has assumed office. You really should look into that. I'm no big fan of the GOP, but the blame for this situation rests squarely with Obama and the left. I'm equally optimistic that the public at large will have had a belly full of Obama's horse crap soon enough, and the people that have propped him up as well.

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