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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    It depends on whether or not you're weak-minded.
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    Do video games cause real world violence?

    I don't blame video games. I don't blame TV or movies. I dont even blame drugs. I just think there's an influence, one that should be honestly discussed beyond one side saying there's no connection and the other saying some dude hit and ran simply because he played GTA.

    I don't blame Wagner, Martin Luther or Charles Darwin for Hitler, but they all played a part.

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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

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    >" In simple and understandable terms, Grossman went over the psychology of the act of killing. Taking another human being's life is a highly unnatural act. People must be conditioned through proper training to overcome this natural revulsion, and to react automatically when it becomes necessary. In the aftermath, it is a given that specific physical and mental symptoms will manifest themselves. When they do, the condition is known as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or PTSD for short. PTSD can result in severe depression, suicide, and destroyed families. Proper officer survival training should include the recognition of PTSD, and how to respond to it. The effects of PTSD can be mitigated by how we respond to others who have been involved in a critical incident.

    Colonel Grossman unveiled what he believes to be the largest single threat to modern civilization: violent media and video games. As a soldier, this nemesis is Grossman's new Evil Empire, and he attacks it with a vengeance. Since television was introduced in the 1950s people have been gradually desensitized to violence, and conditioned to choose violence as an acceptable or even admirable method of solving problems. In television and movies, whenever an injustice needs to be righted, or a character becomes bothersome the solution is to blow them away. It's quick, provides instant gratification, and makes the purveyor of the act a hero. Who wants to suffer through a problem for months and work through it rationally, spiritually, or through communication? Yes, I was skeptical. We've all watched those movies and played video games with no conscious effect on our minds, but the statistics presented by Grossman weighed heavily in favor of his position. The operative word here is "conscious." As an expert in Psy-Ops (psychological) warfare, Grossman is well aware of the subliminal influence of the media. When it is pointed out it becomes painfully obvious that we have been effected.

    In the realm of video games, Grossman likens violent games to modern combat infantry simulators. In addition to desensitization, games reward mass killing as well as providing tactical training. A proper sight picture and a head shot will result in the most graphic animated response. The repetitiveness of playing a game every night makes the response automatic under the right conditions. Grossman believes that we are literally training our children to become highly efficient mass killers. As a firearm instructor familiar with FATS, Simmunition, Laser Village, and other virtual law enforcement training tools, I have to agree with him..."<

    Impact of Gossman's Lecture on Media and Video Game Violence


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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Well let me tell you smth.

    If you apply the same stimulus to multiple different systems, and some systems produce a non-harmful response... while others produce a very damaging response, then the problem doesn't lie with the stimulus, but with the system that are deficitary.

    So you can't hold the stimulus responsible. Look at the cultures (the systems) and see what the problem is.
    That is nonsense. All people do not react the same way to the same stimulus. That reality in no way shape or form exonerates a particular stimulus for having an impact on some individuals and not upon others.

    Your statement is ridiculous on its face. So if some people can look at the sun and it triggers a sneezing response while others do not have the same response then by your statement its not the sun that made them sneeze. its just stupid and nonsensical.

    The fact is that the culture indeed plays a role. And that culture may help determine the role the stimulus plays in the response.
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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It could potentially cause people with mental issues to act out.

    I am pretty sure that when GTA4 came out someone in Calgary who was high on something went on a car jacking spree, and rob a store or two, that he probably was playing GTA 4 quite a bit before hand.

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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Every study on the subject has showed no link, correlation or causation, between playing video games and actual violence. Just like with books, movies, TV shows, campfire stories, limericks, legends, or paintings. We depict violence because it exists around us. We do not enact it because we depict it.
    Also because it makes for some good drama and entertainment.

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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    If behavior isn't shaped by video images, why do companies spend millions each year or TV advertisements?
    Advertising is capable of small influences, not big ones. It'll make you hungry for pizza, not make you hungry for gasoline. Unless a person is already inclined to be violent, no depiction of violence is going to spur them on. Just like it won't convince them to suddenly become an architect.
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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    This is a public poll.
    I think this is still pretty open to debate. I think video games, films etc can make violence more common place to us. Maybe make it appear to some more acceptable because of this so they will then be more inclined to follow a violent impulse?
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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    If behavior isn't shaped by video images, why do companies spend millions each year or TV advertisements?
    This makes absolutely no sense.
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    Re: Do video games cause real world violence?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think this is still pretty open to debate. I think video games, films etc can make violence more common place to us. Maybe make it appear to some more acceptable because of this so they will then be more inclined to follow a violent impulse?
    I think violent media can negatively effect people who already have mental issues. That doesn't justify censorship in my opinion. For me, it underlines our need to improve our mental health system. I grew up playing first person shooters since I was a little kid. Yet, I've never had the urge to kill anyone in real life.
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