View Poll Results: When will the government shutdown end?

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  • October 3rd - October 6th

    4 6.56%
  • October 7th - October 10th

    9 14.75%
  • October 11th - October 14

    14 22.95%
  • October 15 - October 18

    18 29.51%
  • October 19 - October 22

    1 1.64%
  • October 23 - October 26

    0 0%
  • October 27 - October 30

    1 1.64%
  • October 31 - November 3

    3 4.92%
  • November 4 - November 7

    0 0%
  • November 8th or later

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Thread: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The US credit rating has remained unchanged EXCEPT for the downgrade the came as a result of the threat of not raising the debt ceiling. If you read the article you would realize that S&P primarily blamed Congress but then wrapped it up in a general indictment of the American political climate. Having facts, figures and cites provides the balls and brains that lets me make that statement.

    You, on the other hand, simply shot from the hip.... and as most people shoot from the hip, you pretty much hit your foot as your original assertion is a giant fail. Increasing your debt is not the same thing as hurting your credit rating.
    Nice deflection, now answer the ****ing question, did the debt raise under Obama? Step up be a man.

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Nice deflection, now answer the ****ing question, did the debt raise under Obama? Step up be a man.
    Sorry pal, but you are the one backpeddling from your main assertion, which as you recall was:

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    Obama already hurt our credit rating, I don't recall you bitching about that. Unfortunately for all of us several dumbasses voted this idiot in now we all have to pay thre price.
    I have merely taken you to task on this issue (its debate.... you make an assertion, we speak to that assertion)... Obama did not hurt our credit rating; Congress did.

    You were unable to support your assertion, I refuted it (with support), so by debate theory, its in your court. Obfuscating the issue by trying to change your assertion is a tactic often used in debate by those that know they are wrong. The rest of us see through it. You can not back-up your claim that Obama hurt our credit rating, so I suggest you stand down on this one.

    The increase in the debt is all together another issue, the blame for which is another discussion.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 10-06-13 at 04:54 PM.

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry pal, but you are the one backpeddling from your main assertion, which as you recall was:



    I have merely taken you to task on this issue (its debate.... you make an assertion, we speak to that assertion)... Obama did not hurt our credit rating; Congress did.

    You were unable to support your assertion, I refuted it (with support), so by debate theory, its in your court. Obfuscating the issue by trying to change your assertion is a tactic often used in debate by those that know they are wrong. The rest of us see through it. You can not back-up your claim that Obama hurt our credit rating, so I suggest you stand down on this one.

    The increase in the debt is all together another issue, the blame for which is another discussion.
    Who was in office? the acting President will be credited with this **** up, that is the way it works. Kind of like Bush is blamed for the housing bubble when in fact CRA and Clinton is where the blame should be placed.

    Ultimately it takes a deal between the President and Congress, so yes it is Obama.

    Ultimately, if Congress and the president can't reach a deal to stabilize and eventually reduce the debt, now at $16 trillion, Moody's will probably cut the United States' current Aaa rating.

    Analysis: U.S. credit rating could again take hit in 2013 | Reuters

    We know you love Obama, but for once use your brain instead of your heart.

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Who was in office? the acting President will be credited with this **** up, that is the way it works. Kind of like Bush is blamed for the housing bubble when in fact CRA and Clinton is where the blame should be placed.

    Ultimately it takes a deal between the President and Congress, so yes it is Obama.

    Ultimately, if Congress and the president can't reach a deal to stabilize and eventually reduce the debt, now at $16 trillion, Moody's will probably cut the United States' current Aaa rating.

    Analysis: U.S. credit rating could again take hit in 2013 | Reuters

    We know you love Obama, but for once use your brain instead of your heart.
    It is Congress that chooses to pass or not pass a CR; or raise or not raise the debt limit. The President has no role in the process. Yes, the Pres can veto such a resolution, but otherwise is not party to it. The failure of congress to smoothly raise the debt ceiling in 2011 was their choice. Obama had nothing to do with it.

    I presented you with facts and supported opinions, you countered with emotional argument. We know you hate Obama. It could be because he is a Dem; it could be because he is black; it could be because he is ..... whatever the reason, use your brain instead of your heart which rots with hatred..... If you want to hate the guy, that's ok too... just support your position when you make it. Emotional arguments are unbecoming of this board.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 10-07-13 at 12:16 AM.

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    It is Congress that chooses to pass or not pass a CR or pass or not raise the debt limit. The President has no role in the process. Yes, the Pres can veto such a resolution, but otherwise is not party to it. The failure of congress to smoothly raise the debt ceiling in 2011 was their choice. Obama had nothing to do with it.

    I presented you with facts and supported opinions, You countered with emotional argument. We know you hate Obama. It could be because he is a Dem; it could be because he is black; it could be because he is ..... whatever the reason, use your brain instead of your heart which rots with hatred.
    You love for Obama will not save him from a poor leadership record. He has destroyed the country and is responsible for the shutdown now.

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    You love for Obama will not save him from a poor leadership record. He has destroyed the country and is responsible for the shutdown now.
    I don't think that was really the point of the post you were responding to, but then, I've been wrong before. BTW, how do you feel about Congress? Are you one of the few who believe they are doing a good job?
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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    You love for Obama will not save him from a poor leadership record. He has destroyed the country and is responsible for the shutdown now.

    Yes, because the Cons put a poison pill in the CR and he won't sign it; he is responsible for the shutdown? Right. They put the poison pill in the CR because they (the cons) wanted the shut down.

    Meanwhile, almost 50% of your DP peers fully blame the Cons and 80% either fully or substantially blame the Cons.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...-shutdown.html

    But, no sense in helping you with reality. There is too much good smut on those political porn sites you like, who am I to deny you your pleasure? Be careful, though, too much of that stuff and you could go politically blind.... wait, too late.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 10-08-13 at 01:13 AM.

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    Re: Shutdown Pool - When does it reopen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Alright folks, lets have some fun.

    This thread is NOT for debating whether or not you agree with the shut down, whose at fault, etc. PLEASE park your partisanship at the door. This poll is for a bit of fun.

    When do you think the government reopens, and if you want, why? (Please see the previous request).

    Let's see who out of us manages to be good prognosticators at the end of this whole thing.
    They'll spend the rest of this week bickering back and forth. They'll get their act together over the weekend. Hit snags on Monday, then hammer it out between the 14th and 17th.

    They wouldn't dare not raise the debt ceiling. In a couple days you'll start seeing more economists on tv saying why screwing with a reserve currency like that will be devastating for both our international financial prestige and the global economy, etc. Hopefully we can avoid another credit downgrade during this mess.

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