October 3rd - October 6th
October 7th - October 10th
October 11th - October 14
October 15 - October 18
October 19 - October 22
October 23 - October 26
October 27 - October 30
October 31 - November 3
November 4 - November 7
November 8th or later
You were unable to support your assertion, I refuted it (with support), so by debate theory, its in your court. Obfuscating the issue by trying to change your assertion is a tactic often used in debate by those that know they are wrong. The rest of us see through it. You can not back-up your claim that Obama hurt our credit rating, so I suggest you stand down on this one.
The increase in the debt is all together another issue, the blame for which is another discussion.
Last edited by upsideguy; 10-06-13 at 02:54 PM.
Ultimately it takes a deal between the President and Congress, so yes it is Obama.
Ultimately, if Congress and the president can't reach a deal to stabilize and eventually reduce the debt, now at $16 trillion, Moody's will probably cut the United States' current Aaa rating.
Analysis: U.S. credit rating could again take hit in 2013 | Reuters
We know you love Obama, but for once use your brain instead of your heart.
I presented you with facts and supported opinions, you countered with emotional argument. We know you hate Obama. It could be because he is a Dem; it could be because he is black; it could be because he is ..... whatever the reason, use your brain instead of your heart which rots with hatred..... If you want to hate the guy, that's ok too... just support your position when you make it. Emotional arguments are unbecoming of this board.
Last edited by upsideguy; 10-06-13 at 10:16 PM.
Can't we just turn Congress off and then turn it back on again?
Yes, because the Cons put a poison pill in the CR and he won't sign it; he is responsible for the shutdown? Right. They put the poison pill in the CR because they (the cons) wanted the shut down.
Meanwhile, almost 50% of your DP peers fully blame the Cons and 80% either fully or substantially blame the Cons.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...-shutdown.html (Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?)
But, no sense in helping you with reality. There is too much good smut on those political porn sites you like, who am I to deny you your pleasure? Be careful, though, too much of that stuff and you could go politically blind.... wait, too late.
Last edited by upsideguy; 10-07-13 at 11:13 PM.
They wouldn't dare not raise the debt ceiling. In a couple days you'll start seeing more economists on tv saying why screwing with a reserve currency like that will be devastating for both our international financial prestige and the global economy, etc. Hopefully we can avoid another credit downgrade during this mess.