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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I suspect they wallow in the serious mental delusion that the police and military are also right extremists who will join them in the slaughter of their fellow Americans.
    the serious delusions appear to be that if the government becomes dictatorial as Buck apparently hopes, all the cops and soldiers will be on the side of tyrants



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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its best to read the message I was responding to before jumping to conclusions. If you had you would see that the message I was responding to insinuated a threat.




    Doing so prevents one's retort to someone out of the blue from looking silly
    Looking silly is you inferring that some physical threat was made against you when none was made. You were told that you would get your due and what was being discussed was politics and the disintegration of your party. Your due is the destruction of your power base and the rendering of its political influence as impotent. The fact that you would take this as a physical threat of violence against you only emphasizes your own feelings on this matter.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the serious delusions appear to be that if the government becomes dictatorial as Buck apparently hopes, all the cops and soldiers will be on the side of tyrants
    Thank you for confirming that I was correct and you do harbor such delusions.

    btw - the other poster never expressed any desire for dictatorial government powers. That was your own strawman creation. He only criticized "anarchists" and "tea party assholes".
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Looking silly is you inferring that some physical threat was made against you when none was made. You were told that you would get your due and what was being discussed was politics and the disintegration of your party. Your due is the destruction of your power base and the rendering of its political influence as impotent. The fact that you would take this as a physical threat of violence against you only emphasizes your own feelings on this matter.

    I am curious, what motivated you to feel a need to respond to my post made to another poster?



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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am curious, what motivated you to feel a need to respond to my post made to another poster?
    Do you also labor under the false belief that anyone here must first apply for and then gain your permission to comment upon a statement made in a discussion?
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Supporters of the GOP argue that the shutdown and showdown over the deb ceiling is the Democrat's fault because Obama and Reid won't negotiate, proving once again that those who vote R are the least informed people alive.
    It's true they won't negotiate. They are forcing Obamacare down our throats and we don't want it. They already wavered or exempted everybody else now it's time to waver we the ordinary people.
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    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    It's true they won't negotiate. They are forcing Obamacare down our throats and we don't want it. They already wavered or exempted everybody else now it's time to waver we the ordinary people.
    Obamacare. Passed. Both. Houses. Of. Congress.

    It's the law of the land. Why do you wingies not get that?

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for confirming that I was correct and you do harbor such delusions.

    btw - the other poster never expressed any desire for dictatorial government powers. That was your own strawman creation. He only criticized "anarchists" and "tea party assholes".
    Anyone claiming the tea Party is anywhere close to being anarchists is...well not all there. The Tea Party is nothing more than GOP propaganda and Party Power is about as far away from anarchy as one can get.

    In the end the shutdown is due to partisan party politics on both sides. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans are doing their duty to the Republic and the People; both sides run interference and nothing more. This is the fault of the Republocrats in general. It's time to end our One Party system.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Cruz pulled a Bohner and took over the US House of Representatives extorting the system of law by holding the entire US government hostage, and you blame the president???
    Yes. He accepted the consequences of passing ACA on a straight party line vote.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Anyone claiming the tea Party is anywhere close to being anarchists is...well not all there. The Tea Party is nothing more than GOP propaganda and Party Power is about as far away from anarchy as one can get.

    In the end the shutdown is due to partisan party politics on both sides. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans are doing their duty to the Republic and the People; both sides run interference and nothing more. This is the fault of the Republocrats in general. It's time to end our One Party system.
    I do not think anyone has said that the tea party group are anarchists. I agree with you that they are simply part and parcel of the republican party.
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