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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Republicans: 86
    Democrats: 29
    Both: 60
    Neither: 7

    Interesting. So far, 80% hold Republicans responsible, at least in part; compared to 49% who hold Democrats responsible. Seems there's little difference between this forum and the polls monitoring the rest of the nation.
    Yes, this forum is primarily comprised of leftists.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    -----On the Senate side, from June to September, the Senate Finance Committee held a series of 31 meetings to develop of a healthcare reform bill. This group—in particular, Democrats Max Baucus, Jeff Bingaman, and Kent Conrad, and Republicans Mike Enzi, Chuck Grassley, and Olympia Snowe—met for more than 60 hours, and the principles that they discussed, in conjunction with the other committees, became the foundation of the Senate's healthcare reform bill-------

    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Plus there was the big get together Obama had with the Republicans to try to come to a deal.

    So yes the Democrats did talk to the Republicans.
    And again. To quote from the longer print version of Krauthammer's column in the WaPo:

    "The Democrats insist they welcomed contributing ideas from the Republicans. Rubbish. Republicans proposed that insurance be purchasable across state lines. They got nothing. They sought serious tort reform. They got nothing. Why? Because, admitted Howard Dean, Democrats didn't want to offend the trial lawyers. . . . Having stuffed Obamacare down the throats of the GOP and the country, Democrats are now paying the price."
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes, this forum is primarily comprised of leftists.
    Your poll is similar to national polls. You want to cry that the nation is also primarily comprised of leftists?

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Your poll is similar to national polls. You want to cry that the nation is also primarily comprised of leftists?
    Most likely it will be blamed on mainstream media like Fox, and talk radio
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Your poll is similar to national polls. You want to cry that the nation is also primarily comprised of leftists?
    I wasn't crying about either.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    the GOP wants the Democrats to negotiate on the ACA with a gun to their heads.

    no thanks.

    Restart the govt. and then we will talk.
    Who is holding the gun to the Democrat heads? Have you ever seen Blazing Saddles?
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    From WWII Memorial Barricade Wired Shut:

    WWII Memorial:



    and the WWI Memorial:



    Kinda looks like the Park Service is trying to cause maximum inconvenience, doncha think?

    From The Washington Times: a Park Ranger grouses:
    “It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    From WWII Memorial Barricade Wired Shut:

    WWII Memorial:



    and the WWI Memorial:



    Kinda looks like the Park Service is trying to cause maximum inconvenience, doncha think?

    From The Washington Times: a Park Ranger grouses:
    It is a cheap trick. And they're playing it for anybody who has a camera and a microphone. "No Billy. I know you spent your entire summer vacation just waiting to get into Yellowstone, but the mean old republicans shut it down. Here's a little doll that looks like John Boehner - the guy who caused it. Here's some pins to stick in it. BTW, Billy, he wants to shut down Netflix and all playstations, too. Yeah. The pins aren't big enough. Here's a hammer and some nails." And the low information voter that comprises the left swallows it all and nods in agreement. "Yeah. They're holding little Billy here hostage. Anarchists! Scam bags. Terrorists on a jihad. Let's string 'em up! Where's zat likker bottle? Where's Ted Kennedy when ya need him?"

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Republicans: 86
    Democrats: 29
    Both: 60
    Neither: 7

    Interesting. So far, 80% hold Republicans responsible, at least in part; compared to 49% who hold Democrats responsible. Seems there's little difference between this forum and the polls monitoring the rest of the nation.
    And this is relevant how? It's really important to party hackers who don't ever care about doing the right thing. For you, it's about control, power and money.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Up till the government shutdown, I was 100% certain the 2014 election would be all about Obamacare ala 2010 mostly. Now I don't know. Maybe just local issues or who knows what major event or events will take place between now and then that throws everything into a tizzy. I know I posted by 1 Oct update, but if I was to do so today, 4 Oct instead of 1 Oct, I would think the GOP only picks up 3 senate seats and loses perhaps 5 house seats. Who knows, the GOP may even lose the Georgia seat.
    I have complete faith in Repubs that they will continue to provide us with Mourdocks every election.
    Boehner's indignation over a WH staffer's "winning" comment pales in comparison to the two KY Senators saying much more.
    The blog entry you made Oct. 1st is etched in stone as much as the next mini-CR from the House when they they have sh*t on their face.
    I want to see addendums throughout the month, with a new label from you.
    Don't let your fan club down.
    Keeping this alive every day for 13 months helps the good guys, us Nunn-type Democrats.

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