Democrats hold absolutely zero fault in this.
Your position would only be valid if Obamacare was a piece of legislation, on the table in some way, or connected to the Government shut down.
But Obamacare is NOT connected to the Government shut down in any way what so ever.
Obamacare is Law, not a bill.
What Republicans are doing now is no different than making the same demands about making abortion illegal or eliminating all tax liability after the first 1 million dollars.
If the Republicans were making those demands instead, would you still think the Democrats shared some of the blame?
They might as well demand the elimination of Social Security while they are at it. It would be no less moronic.
Those of you who somehow think that the Democrats should negotiate over a LAW that has nothing to do with the Debt Ceiling or with the CR, have just not thought this thing through.
That or you are misinformed or just want to see Obama fail so badly that your demands seem reasonable to you.
Some Democrats did want to use a shutdown as leverage to undo the sequester, but the leadership defeated it.
I suggest you bone up on the appropriations process... it's at the center of this lil shindig we are having... ACA is indirectly related.. funding for it is the very heart of the issue.
But the ACA does not require funding until tax credits roll out.
For now it is all about getting people signed up for insurance and the elimination of pre-existing conditions.
The Republicans stopped quite a few things. But they did not and can not, stop the ACA.
The ACA is a law.
It was passed by both the House and Senate, signed by the President, upheld by a Right Wing Supreme Court, and then reaffirmed by both electoral and popular vote during the election.
It is a LAW.
It is not on the table.
You might as well go after Social Security instead, for all the good it will do you.
You can shut it all down.
You can destroy our credit rating.
You can collapse our currency.
But you can NOT stop the ACA without 67 Republicans in the Senate.
Last edited by Painter; 10-03-13 at 12:08 AM.
if what you are saying is true, then Democrats purposefully shutdown the government for no reason whatsoever when they decide not to pass the House CR.
so which is it.. are you wrong, or are Democrats fully to blame for fraudulently shutting down the government?
( the correct answer is.. you are wrong)
the shutdown s occurring because Democrats and Republicans cannot agree to the terms of the CR passed in each of the houses..... period, end of story.
neither party is budging.. both are sticking to their guns ( for now)
it takes 2 to tango.. and it takes 2 to form an impasse...... that just a simple fact a lot of people need to wrap their little heads around.