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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Emergency treatment isn't at the root of Obamacare.
    I think it is.....

    Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    It's liberal. Not one single member of the GOP voted for it. Don't blame Heritage for ObamaCare mandate
    Whether they voted for it or not, it was a Republicans idea (Heritage Foundation) and they helped to write the bill and were for it all the way up until Mitch McConnell decided he didn't like the mandate and got his wing of the party to oppose it. It was then that the GOP became the "party of no" and right or wrong have opposed everything Obama did or tried to do since.

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Envisioneer View Post
    I believe in universal responsibility. Everyone is responsible for every harm that happens to society if they do not solve the problems of society before something bad happens. So everyone is responsible for the shutdown. That means mostly the american people but also for foreigners who did not try to offer solutions. I am at fault for not having come up with a solution that works, but at least I have tried to offer solutions. We should let the house republican representatives' districts to opt out of the law and not have to pay for it or benefit or be harmed by it. We need a solution everyone likes. This would satisfy the republicans and the democrats. Does anyone else want to avoid blame and offer a solution? What do you guys have to say about my solution or other solutions? We need to solve this because we are responsible for this country, some more than others but everyone has the ability to affect change if they choose to so are responsible for whatever society does. We can control and do anything we want to if we dedicate our selves to doing it so we need to dedicate ourselves to solutions. Right?
    that's some heavy duty sarcasm for your third post. bravo



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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    You think it's at the root of Obamacare because a law was passed in 1986?
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    if the obamacare bill is so frigging great why did Obama postpone some of it for some. He didn't have legal authority to do that



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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Whether they voted for it or not, it was a Republicans idea (Heritage Foundation) and they helped to write the bill and were for it all the way up until Mitch McConnell decided he didn't like the mandate and got his wing of the party to oppose it. It was then that the GOP became the "party of no" and right or wrong have opposed everything Obama did or tried to do since.
    You obviously didn't read the link you quoted.
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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    This act causes hospitals to lose $40 billion a year in unfunded emergency care.

    This is why hospitals are closing.

    Under ObamaCare, many more people will have insurance which means hospitals will get their care paid for, which means they will stay open.

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You think it's at the root of Obamacare because a law was passed in 1986?
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    You obviously didn't read the link you quoted.
    Hi Harshaw.

    I see your posts are just as vapid and irrelevant as always.

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Who, in your opinion, is primarily at fault for the shutdown?
    "Fault" means something wrong or bad happened.

    Noone's at fault because nothing bad happened. The government shut down. Leave it shut down for at least the next calendar year.

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    Re: Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Hi Harshaw.

    I see your posts are just as vapid and irrelevant as always.
    Well, let's see, Moot; in the first one, I point out the irrelevance of your citing a law passed in 1986 to show that emergency care is at "the root" of Obamacare . . .

    And in the second one, I point out the vapidity of your saying things that the link in the post you quoted (quoted including the link) already refuted.

    So, while you're correct to intone irrelevance and vapidity, neither is mine.
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