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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    If one was to consider them addictive, then it would be addictive in the sense that sex, or skydiving is addictive. In this sense virtually anything pleasurable could be construed as addictive, but the reality is that pleasure itself is the addiction. As far as developing a dependency for the drugs themselves, no they are not addictive.
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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    I meant to vote no, but in some cases they can become psychologically addictive.
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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Cocaine. Strange, stupid drug. I've seen people get so psychologically addicted they throw their lives away but it is not addictive per se.

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    That is one heavy psychological addicting drug. I've also seen scores of individuals lose everything because of cocain.

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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That is one heavy psychological addicting drug. I've also seen scores of individuals lose everything because of cocain.
    I watched someone come unglued on cocaine and I just couldn't figure it out. The same bitch was also addicted to nitrous. Its more of a personality defect than a true addiction though.

    I've seen people lose everything from alcohol. Go figure.

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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
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    Physically addictive? I don't think so. Psychologically addictive? Absolutely.

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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    It's true that caffeine is addictive but it's pretty easy to get off it (tylenol). I didn't include it because it's a harmless addiction, like Manga or DP.

    Cocaine is kind of weird. I've seen people lose it but once they ran out of money, they didn't really show withdrawal symptoms per se.
    I wouldn't really even call it a withdrawl. It's really just exhaustion from being so hyped up in my opinion.
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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Physically addictive? I don't think so. Psychologically addictive? Absolutely.
    Well I don't know what you consider psychologically addictive. I would say they can be habit forming, but not even remotely addictive in a medical sense. They have zero effect on the reward center of the brain. They primarily effect Serotonin which is why they have shown to be highly successful in treating depression. The kicker is the results. With SSRI's you have to take them for months, even years to alleviate a depression. Psilocybin has shown to have those same results, except they occur after one or two treatments... Pretty incredible stuff.
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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    If one was to consider them addictive, then it would be addictive in the sense that sex, or skydiving is addictive. In this sense virtually anything pleasurable could be construed as addictive, but the reality is that pleasure itself is the addiction. As far as developing a dependency for the drugs themselves, no they are not addictive.
    Well Sex activates the reward center in the brain. That is inherently what addiction is. Pretty much anything that binds to, or promotes the release of dopamine is addictive. Psilocybin and LSD do not have an effect on the reward center and they do not interact with dopamine. This comparison is inaccurate. In fact, Heroine, Meth, and Cocaine are addictive in much the same way as sex.
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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    From both my reading and personal experiences, most people do not desire to use those drugs on a regular basis, even after using them several times, so they are not addictive. I did know on guy who used LSD everyday for a few months, but he had existing mental issues and seemed to be wanting to avoid doing anything with his life.

    There is a theory that people who use XTC and other psychedelics often for a long time tend to get into speed abuse later on, because they no longer get the same effect from the psychedelics. (they don't get the same effects from the speed as they did with XTC, but it does provide a consistent high)

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    Re: Are LSD and Psilocybin addictive?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    Well I don't know what you consider psychologically addictive. I would say they can be habit forming, but not even remotely addictive in a medical sense. They have zero effect on the reward center of the brain. They primarily effect Serotonin which is why they have shown to be highly successful in treating depression. The kicker is the results. With SSRI's you have to take them for months, even years to alleviate a depression. Psilocybin has shown to have those same results, except they occur after one or two treatments... Pretty incredible stuff.
    In the APA Dictionary of Psychology, psychological dependence is defined as "dependence on a psychoactive substance for the reinforcement it provides." Most times psychological dependence is classified under addiction. They are similar in that addiction is a physiological "craving" for something and psychological dependence is a "need" for a particular substance because it causes enjoyable mental affects.

    A person becomes dependent on something to help alleviate specific emotions. Psychological dependence begins after the first trial which a person then becomes satisfied and the satisfaction increases with each use. This constant feeling leads to psychological reinforcement which eventually leads to dependence. Of the various things that a person can be psychologically dependent on, "opiates, benzodiazepines, barbiturates, alcohol, and nicotine" are among them. Along with substances, people can also become dependent on activities as well; such as shopping, pornography, self-harm, and many more. While a psychologically dependent person attempts to recover, there are many withdrawal symptoms that one can experience throughout the process.Some of the withdrawal symptoms are: headache, poor judgement, trembling hands, and loss of attention span and focusing. When trying to over come psychological dependence on a drug, one can go to a substance abuse program.
    I'd say anything that gives someone pleasure can become psychologically addictive. Don't know whether anyone would agree with me or not, but . . . there it is.

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