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    Re: Will there be a Government shut down tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    So we have no choice but to succumb to national and global power structures?

    Weak.

    Apparently we need to become a lot more oppressed than we are yet before we'll mix **** up.

    We don't need local power to defeat national/global power. We simply need local resourcefulness to ignore and forego all the "help" the globalists are "so kindly" offering.
    National and global power structures give us a lot of crap, but they also gave us the Information Age and all of its luxories. It is hard to resist the hedonistic impulses that rule our species. It is difficult to imagine any given county or state in the United States could on its own generate enough capital or demand to support Apple or Microsoft and rapid technological advancement.
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    Re: Will there be a Government shut down tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    If you look over the course of a hundred years or more, you'll see people used to be a lot poorer, with much lower standard of living, and yet were much more independent in meeting their own needs. Wages may have stagnated or dropped in real terms, but the standard of living has been increasing at the same time. Compare today's working poor to the poor homesteaders of 150 years ago, and the difference in technology and the lack of any social safety net reveals the poor back then were unfathomably worse off and yet were more independent in meeting their needs (out of necessity). This leads me to wonder if the poor might actually NOT die en masse in the streets if the social safety net went away, rather they would simply return to a standard of living we haven't seen among our poor for a hundred years or more.



    This suggests criticism of our monetary policies. Could it be that we agree that our monetary policies suck?



    Maybe it's both. Maybe it's really difficult to resist living at the edge of your means when technology kicks as much ass as it does today, plus with a widening social safety net, maybe it removes the fear of failure a bit?
    You don't think the poor were dying in the streets 100 years ago? Of course they were and the wealthy merely stepped around them. They were used to it, it made them feel superior and some want to get used to it again. Humans can be amazingly heartless and numb to others suffering, that's why we had to have the Govt. step in. The results were the most prosperous nation the Earth has ever seen and we can have it again.
    When they had a problem with pickpockets at public executions the French took to guillotining them. The problem was there were still pickpockets working the crowd then too. Fear of negative penalties no matter how harsh is not a effective limiter of unwanted behavior.
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    Re: Will there be a Government shut down tonight?

    Got that one right.
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You're relatively new here, so let me explain.

    Whatever Navy predicts, the exact opposite will happen. He's so wrong on predictions that the reverse of his predictions he gives are virtually ironclad in coming true.

    Also, T-15 minutes. Last I checked the news, Boehner and Reid aren't talking. Therefore, no deal is going on. Therefore, shutdown is coming.
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    Re: Will there be a Government shut down tonight?

    This will never happen....right?

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    Re: Will there be a Government shut down tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Got that one right.

    Yeah I was wrong when I predicted President Bush would win two terms and that the Republicans would kick ass in the 2006 midterms... Keep drinking the kool aide My far out left wing friend.
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    Re: Will there be a Government shut down tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You call military being paid with IOUs not a shutdown? The entire national parks being offline not a shutdown? 80% of NASA going home? 800,000 civilian military contractors not working not a shutdown?

    You are wrong. As usual, man up for once in your life.
    My clueless left wing friend, the military got paid and it wasn't and IOU and so did I.
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