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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You are missing the point. Humans running the society are what would change me. There is no society without the humans. In a cave man world run by humans I would be a cave man. In this society I am me.
    But the YOU are different than the YOu would be in a different world, thus YOU are a result of the society. I don't know how you can even try to deny that. Mind you, I am not saying you are fully and only a result of the society you live in. But do remember, everything from your schooling, to your daily life and how you view the world around you is very strongly affected by what society you live in. This is why people in different societies even in this world where everything is quite similar, can have such extremely different views.

    Imagine what YOU would be if YOU grew up in a far better society.

    Imagine what Mr Terrorist from Pakistan would be if he grew up in a different society. You ultimately are a result of the society you grow up in, it affects you deeply and widely.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Don't go thinking parliamentary democracy is better, it isn't. As soon as someone get a majority there, they can propose and pass anything that they please. They are pretty much given the power to dictate.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This could get ugly...
    Ofcourse it can. But who would be so foolish to try to provoke?
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    And I am proud of myself when I see how far you got. Very much so. In fact, I am so proud that I would say I am a Leonardo debating some street urchin.

    Leonardo would say it a hopeless task. But I have hope in every individual, even you.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I never said sole leader. I said THE leader. But anyways. I am all for a society without any single leader at all. I don't think thats democracy, its more like monkey business.
    You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    ..*snip*...So a single leader. *snip*

    How is that meaningfully different than "sole leader"?
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Ofcourse it can. But who would be so foolish to try to provoke?
    It isn't foolish to provoke...

    But the YOU are different than the YOu would be in a different world, thus YOU are a result of the society. I don't know how you can even try to deny that. Mind you, I am not saying you are fully and only a result of the society you live in. But do remember, everything from your schooling, to your daily life and how you view the world around you is very strongly affected by what society you live in. This is why people in different societies even in this world where everything is quite similar, can have such extremely different views.

    Imagine what YOU would be if YOU grew up in a far better society.

    Imagine what Mr Terrorist from Pakistan would be if he grew up in a different society. You ultimately are a result of the society you grow up in, it affects you deeply and widely.
    There is not such thing as a society without PEOPLE!!

    Aaahhhh!! Nevermind.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    People = Society, and Society = People.

    You cannot separate the two, or say that the influence involved is one-way.
    Education.

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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It isn't foolish to provoke...



    There is not such thing as a society without PEOPLE!!

    Aaahhhh!! Nevermind.
    Perhaps Maximus has in mind a society of zebras, or perhaps meerkats, or prairie dogs, or something.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    People = Society, and Society = People.

    You cannot separate the two, or say that the influence involved is one-way.
    Humans affect humans... not society.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Perhaps Maximus has in mind a society of zebras, or perhaps meerkats, or prairie dogs, or something.
    He has in mind a utopia of perfection based off of European liberalism... some Star Trek fantasy world where people have evolved away from greed, anger, desire, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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