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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    You support the current US system. Do you have a single leader?
    HA
    More like 10,000....or ... 300,000,000..
    However , we do have a chain of command...thus one man, our President , Barack Obama, But, he is NOT a "one leader" man (aka dictator)...

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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    You support the current US system. Do you have a single leader?
    Hardly. There are thousands. If you don't know that, then you have absolutely ZIPPO business commenting on anything.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    HA
    More like 10,000....or ... 300,000,000..
    However , we do have a chain of command...thus one man, our President , Barack Obama, But, he is NOT a "one leader" man (aka dictator)...
    Well. You do have a single leader. The president. If he is elect or not does not really play a big role. He is the leader of your nation, this he is a single leader, because you don't have two presidents, or 3 or 10.
    Furthermore, this single leader in the US is getting more and more power, while all apparatus around him is getting less and less power.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Hardly. There are thousands. If you don't know that, then you have absolutely ZIPPO business commenting on anything.

    So, you don't have a president?
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    So, you don't have a president?
    He is not the only leader, Mr. Venetian. His authority is quite limited (to the current chagrin of many) and he cannot govern by himself. As I say, if you don't know this, you're not qualified to be commenting.

    Not to mention that the vast majority of governmental function is at the state level, not the national level.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Well. You do have a single leader. The president. If he is elect or not does not really play a big role. He is the leader of your nation, this he is a single leader, because you don't have two presidents, or 3 or 10.
    Furthermore, this single leader in the US is getting more and more power, while all apparatus around him is getting less and less power.
    He may be the head of state, but he is BY NO MEANS the "single leader" of our nation.


    The very idea is laughable.


    And furthermore, if he's getting more power (which, I admit, seemed to be the case), then how the heck did he allow congress to shut down the government recently (or rather, not renew funding, which is nearly the same thing)?


    Edit: Frankly, I'd say the congressional majority leaders have more power, in some ways.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He is not the only leader, Mr. Venetian. His authority is quite limited (to the current chagrin of many) and he cannot govern by himself. As I say, if you don't know this, you're not qualified to be commenting.

    Not to mention that the vast majority of governmental function is at the state level, not the national level.
    Feel free to go around thinking that, or start questioning things.

    He is THE leader. Undeniably, in the US. In other countries there are single leaders as well. Scandinavian countries and England all have a prime minister. France have a dual leader officially, but also a single leader symbol in the president. But they have a prime minister as well.

    Of the so called democratic country, nowhere does this single leader have more power and authority than in France and the US.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    He may be the head of state, but he is BY NO MEANS the "single leader" of our nation.


    The very idea is laughable.


    And furthermore, if he's getting more power (which, I admit, seemed to be the case), then how the heck did he allow congress to shut down the government recently (or rather, not renew funding, which is nearly the same thing)?


    Edit: Frankly, I'd say the congressional majority leaders have more power, in some ways.
    Who are the other leaders then?

    Its alike that in most of the west. The single leaders do come to power in different ways and do wield different degrees of powers. In the US and France, the single leader, relative to the rest of governance wields an anourmous amount of power.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Feel free to go around thinking that, or start questioning things.
    Your shimmering ignorance of how things actually work isn't my problem. But it's all the more hilarious given the sublime arrogance with which you post.

    You have no idea what you're talking about.
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    Re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Feel free to go around thinking that, or start questioning things.

    He is THE leader. Undeniably, in the US. In other countries there are single leaders as well. Scandinavian countries and England all have a prime minister. France have a dual leader officially, but also a single leader symbol in the president. But they have a prime minister as well.

    Of the so called democratic country, nowhere does this single leader have more power and authority than in France and the US.
    The president and vice president represent one third of a government with balanced powers. We like to ascribe to the presidency more power than it actually has, Congress seems more than willing to give it extra powers, and, of course, the president will take any powers that he can. But, according to the Constitution, the executive branch is only one of three with equal powers.
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