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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Why are you here then? It takes only a click on the button to unsubscribe if your belief is that I do not debate.
    I certainly do not debate like you, just to win an argument. And I don't attack other people to accomplish that goal.

    So to be honest, if I remember our previous debates, it was I who tried to discuss things, and you who neither debated or discussed anything. You used cheap personal attacks and abused the integrity of logic to try to make any fallacy correct, by discussing irrelevant things, and thinking any little victory in discussing small details now irrelevant to the bigger point, would get grant you victory in the bigger debate, although not relevant to that at all.


    I suggest you read that many times.
    You just proved my ... I win.

    You bash the USA and try to justify your complaints by insisting that you are discussing things to make it better when all yo uare areally doing is just bashing Americans for being American.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    That may be right. But think of it as the bottle hole, where the whole is so tiny that only the opinions of a very few gets through and hold back everyone else. I can imagine the genies that do get out of the bottle want to try to plug that whole entirely.
    I meant that, in a sense, what society does changes humans, and what humans do changes society. They're one and the same, yet somehow separate. Or something.
    Bah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    A society ruled by the few is no different than any system in the past.
    One of us is confused as to what the word "society" means. When I read it, I think "bunch of people living in under the same system", but....

    Anyways...There are many different types of "societies" that were/are "ruled by the few". The differences may be small, but they are differences.



    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Yeah, I know. That is pretty much the society we live in today. And they throw games and keep the masses preoccupied (almost like slaves with no option) to be able to remain in control.
    Only because we let them.

    The trouble is, we will.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I meant that, in a sense, what society does changes humans, and what humans do changes society. They're one and the same, yet somehow separate. Or something.
    Bah.
    Societies are what humans make them... societies don't change humans, humans running societies change humans.

    One of us is confused as to what the word "society" means. When I read it, I think "bunch of people living in under the same system", but....
    There you go...
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Societies are what humans make them... societies don't change humans, humans running societies change humans.



    There you go...
    Yeah, but....

    I kinda have this idea of "society" as also meaning "the interactions between everyone in said society", which then means that the humans in a society change that society, and the society changes them. Perhaps I'm using the wrong word....
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yeah, but....

    I kinda have this idea of "society" as also meaning "the interactions between everyone in said society", which then means that the humans in a society change that society, and the society changes them. Perhaps I'm using the wrong word....
    No. I hear what you are saying... I was mostly messing with you because the concepts are almost one and the same. Humans make society. Society consists of humans. Which affects the other or is it simultaneously one and the same?
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Oh for ****s sake... not this guy again.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No. I hear what you are saying... I was mostly messing with you because the concepts are almost one and the same. Humans make society. Society consists of humans. Which affects the other or is it simultaneously one and the same?
    That's basically what I was trying to say to MZ (I made his name an acronym because I am lazy).

    Society does not control humans anymore than humans control society, because the two are one and the same, or at the least, 2 slightly different things in an unbreakable feedback loop.

    Even if you think you're not part of "the rest of them", you are. Everyone is.

    Even if you're some hermit-like monk living in some extremely secluded location, you're still part of the overall "human" society - just not a well known part of it...


    Or...something like that...
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    ........
    Cheer up, dude. Humanity is on an inexorable journey to godhood.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Not really. I was thinking that I'D go insane if I knew someone was watching me all the time.
    For years all of my telephone calls were taped. I did not really mind at all. Au contraire. I always thought it good, because any problems could be cleared up immediately.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Finally, a statement I can agree with completely.



    The thought that what you're saying is totally unrealistic? Yes, I'm quite sure that most people, black, white or something else, have had that thought.
    I think you know that comment was in regards to blacks fighting for their rights in the US instead of giving up and thinking it would be unrealistic to have their rights. They could have thought like that, but no matter how unrealistic it was, they eventually won.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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